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My game in now taking forever too save -- sometime 20 to 30 minutes or more.  We just installed a brand new high end graphics card and also installed some new memory cards so the RAM should be sufficient.  My instincts are that I have too much CC, although I really don't have that much yet.  I had much CC more in Sims 2 and didn't have this problem.  I read that saving the game periodicially would held the extended save time using save and quit, but all that really does for me is that save time during the game is really really long -- nothing is shortened.  Is there another solution short of removing my CC?  Thanks!

You can't really compare Sims 2 cc to Sims 3 cc. Most of the files for TS3 are much larger, so less total files will take more room compared to TS2. But, that being said, I have a decent amount of cc in my game, and it only takes between 10 and 20 seconds to save, no matter how long it's been since my last save. Of course, I do play with story mode (or whatever it's called) disabled. I just leave aging on and I flip back and forth between my families. That way I don't miss much and I have complete control over my sims.

I have cc and story progression on and I've never gotten a save time over 40 seconds.

I've had the same problem with unbelievable save times. 

My issue is with CC, but I'm not sure which file(s) is(are) screwed as I'm still in the process of pinpointing it(them).   

I look at this title and think, "Was one I not enough in Time?"

Anyways on subject.
After I removed a lot of CC; Mainly hair, My game has been running better.
I also cleared out the DCcache, reinstalled a lot of the sims3pack as well.
The only problem was that Riverview got F'ed up on me.

One I is more than enough in Time -- sorry if the typo offends.

In any event, thanks for all the replies.  I think that the solution seems to be to remove my CC and slowly add back. 

My save times are an average of a minute, maybe bit longer but I have had 5 minutes once or twice

My save times aren't the fastest, either. It was really bad when I first installed, and believe it or not, the first patched helped a little bit. I was waiting 10-15 minutes for a save pre-patch, and now it can take anywhere from a minute to like 8. Yes, I've timed it.
Haven't been able to find a solution anywhere. Maybe it's just my computer, but I can't understand why if it's going to take all damn day to save, that it doesn't ALWAYS take all damn day.

I think he is correct. I just had this issue and majorly re-organized all of my content. I had converted .sims3files into .packages thinking I could bypass EA's launcher altogether. After installing them correctly and removing 1 wood pattern I found on TSR the slow loading/saving times went from 5minutes to 20seconds. I obviously cannot say for sure this is your problem but thought I'd share how I solved mine.

Just to update -- I drastically reduced my CC and my save time is back to normal.  I am not sure at this point if it is one file or just the amount of CC I had that was causing the problem,  but I am going to slowly add back and see.

When I removed all my cc hair and some of the sims3pack, my game has been running at faster speeds now. I believe my save time only takes a minute or two.

I have a large amount of TS3 content, and my save times would be 20 seconds tops. I think that some CC is borked, watch out for content made with the TSR tool, or anything downloaded from there.

I know what you mean. I removed alot of the TSR crap I had but, there is still a few patterns floating around. I need to figure out which ones are them, and which patterns have that shitty color wheel set up.

I have no more the problem of delay on saving but got something worse. At some point my hoods start to hang and windows cannot shut down TS3. I still don't know what causes this issue but I have a suspect that it was something added with Riverview. The hood has some objects that are not available in build and buy as for example a scarecrow and a terrain paint that simulate old parking place tiles. Some things were placed to buy like a farmer overall for male and female.
Don't think that cc are the problem, but bad cc. I wouldn't recomend at all that folk stop up their game now that it is still a new born baby. Sure next EP will add a lot of new crap and from previous experience I suppose that most will be a slight modified version of any cc that you have already.

I have looong save times too, once 40 mns, and micro freezes too. I took out my extracted packages, and reinstalled through the launcher. That helped, only 15 mns now.
It might be something from TSR, I grabbed patterns when they were free.
It would be a good idea to share the names of the offending files.

The only time I had very long save times is when the ram usage of sims went past 1.6 gigs, cant run sims on a 3 gig switch so 1.6 is pretty much the limit before things start getting screwy with other programs as well.

I narrowed my problem down to three files that relate to toddler training.  Since I took them out, my game has been having quick save times.

my save time is probably between 1 to 5 minutes depending on how much i played
i did notice a couple days ago when i took out all my custom content that my game was saving much faster but sadly
a sims game without custom content is not worth playing to me

especially since i am bored with the game already

Capital letters and punctuation are required in this post. We are bored with you already.

I have dropped the Sims detail from Very High to only High again in benefit to performance and it helped a bit. Anyway after playing TS3 in Very High Detail I noticed that they do not look any better (much more to swollen rubber puppets) and back to only High, they look a little bit closer to their thumbnails (that look much better than the sim self).
At least in my computer Hoods cannot be larger than 45MB and I'm going to wait until I decide my new computer (that has to be much and really much bigger than the one I have now).
I'm not a typical game player and actually I never play any comp game except TS. But I have nothing against game playing cause it seems that it is the only branch that is forcing computer developping once for normal home users any Office Computer does the job.
I get the very long Save Time when my hood is close to the final borked end. When it takes 60 seconds to save I know the end is near (normally it takes maximum 25 seconds).

One thing had never changed, it takes really long to shut down. None of the times I got the game to close in less than 2 minutes. But I consider it as OS limitation.

i am bored with you too
its a free country i type as i please thank you very much

This is not a free country. This is MATY. Learn how to capitalize and punctuate or go the fuck away.

That's more like it LV, now keep up the good work what ho!

I'm also having this issue. Last night I saved the game, went off to cook and eat dinner, and when I came back the game was still saving. I do have a lot of CC, though.  :-\

I suppose it depends what you want.  If you want to dress up your sims like electronic paper dolls, then you might find this to be true.  On the other hand, I play with almost no cc and am more interested in creating distressing situations for my sims to live through.  You create your own interest.  If you play a cookie cutter game where your sim gets up, goes to work, fulfils his/her opportunities, builds skills, woohoos a couple of times to get spawn, eats, pees, and dies, it will get boring.  You need to be more creative.

Sims are still electronic paper-dolls. I don't have any ccs in my game when you mean clothing, make-up, etc, but I have a lot of styles saved that I made self and helps me to save time when decorating sims or houses so that I know who is who at least. It is personal meaning even when you say I like to create distressing situations for my sims to live through. Particularly I don't see any fun in it once they cannot at all understand stressing situations. So far I see only that they start those negatives balloons just because the other sim doesn't have the same traits they have.
In TS2 they closed the ears with the fingers when a subject was not belonging to their traits. I never saw any real stress situation except child birth and fire that everybody reacts exactly the same way (run to and stay around screaming).

My save times have been very fast so far, not more than 30 seconds I believe. However I try to keep my CC to a minimum for now, because I don't want my TS3 to blow up like my TS2 did. I just went and deleted most of the custom hair again, most of it looks like crap anyways. So I just have a few basics (Awesomemod, ISM, NoIntro, NoMosaic, and way too much of the store stuff). Well, also, my notebook kicks ass.

I have a save file that takes about 10 minutes to save a game. I don't use any custom content or mods except for AwesomeMod and it appears to only be that save file. I've got another save file that takes 10 seconds to save, but its still fresh.

I believe that if your neighborhoods get bloated with many, many sims then your load times are going to increase. I've noticed my load times getting slightly longer as new families are added but I'm still around 40 seconds with tons of CC. Just don't let your neighborhood go crazy!

A better computer;
Get one.

I've got a great computer. 4 GB of RAM, 3.06 ghtz processor, Nvidia GeForce Go 7600. It's not my computer that's causing 10 minute load times. I'll go with the bloated neighborhoods as nearly all my houses are filled. Looks like its time to go all Ed Gein on some townies.

Anyone else finding crashes during saves?
At times I have found myself crossing my fingers, breath held, hoping it pulls through...

Care to share any of these distressing situations? I too like doing malicious things to my Sims... except for the fact that there are so few things that you can do other than Fire, cheating on their spouse, giving them all the loser and unlucky trait, and making the children all hate each other. Please enlighten me! I'm running out of fun things to do in my game, and i've played just about every career and trait combination in the game.

My setting, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+ ~3.2GHz, 3072MB RAM, directX10 (XP 3rd party) and NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512, is decent for running the game. My save times are horrid too, after adding some stuff it went up to 15 minutes.

After clearing everything, except Awesome, the save time went down to, say, ten minutes. I've cleared the townies and NPC's down as much as I could and I only have 13 families in town, all other lots are empty.

Now, I'm not a computer wiz or anything, but I think it has something to do with the hard disks, their writing speeds? Mine are Samsung POS with 7200 rpms or something... I heard that RAID 0ing your hard drives might ease up playing Sims 3 (and 2 too), but I haven't had the guts to test it yet since it requires a full computer re-set.

Hard drive perfomance can't be the cause for these long save times, no matter how slow the drive is. Writing the save file to the drive is (mostly) sequential access, this doesn't take more than a couple of seconds, even for file sizes >100MB. The long save times must be caused by the game itself, for unknown reasons it needs so long to "build" the file. That is unless the save algorithm is a total brainfart, which wirtes and overwrites the data like a thousand times. The EA devs can't be that stupid.

Striping (RAID0 isn't really a RAID, since the R stands for "redundant") doesn't really improve IO-perfomance in most single-user applications/environments, where drive access is mostly random. Striping doubles the sequential read/write rates, but it doesn't do anything about the access times. Since TS3 streams lots of data, a solid state disk might noticeably improve the perfomance (won't affect the save times, though).

You're an optimist!

I found that using the Compressorizer or Pescado's compressor tool on CC with meshes included will make the game considerably slower, including save times. I noticed how slow it was becoming when I compressed these files. Packages that aren't meshes or aren't included in the package are safe to compress. Every time I would zoom in to a household, objects like chairs, couches and the like are gray and then turn back into their original state.

Save time with compressed meshes was 50 seconds or more.

Save time without compressed meshes was less than 20 seconds. A little more when loading a house. Times aren't much different with no CC installed.

I have 72 MB of CC in the game and load times are as described above. Then again I've recently reformatted my computer (but I know compressing CC meshes slows the game down for some reason).

Oh, and these are my computer specs:

Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz
3 GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT

Can anyone else confirm this?

Nope if anything running the store stuff through the compressorizer made things faster.I am however running one of the pre-nuked hoods,the original ones were so junked up they would scarcely creep.

I'm not talking EA's stuff--- stuff you'd find at MTS or the others.

Then I guess it is a coincidence since my speed and performance for the game has accelerated tenfold since I removed the compressed meshes and also while also testing it on a reformatted computer. I may have to do another test.

Oh sorry,every time I hear compress I think of those bloated store packages.

That's quite all right. Mistakes can happen. =D

I can confirm this. Unfortunately there's no way I can prove it. I only used one CC. Now I'm not sure if this is related to the mesh itself, but shrinking it to an itty-bitty size causes sluggish performance. And that's with just one in the game. I had several compressed meshes in my game and it was so slow that I was practically ripping my hair out.

I used this (http://all-about-style.com/zip2/ShoePlatformAnkleStrap_AAS.zip) CC/mesh for the test. It is a 2.5 MB file. Using the compressorizer I shrank it to 1 KB. I placed it in my game like normal. Startup went normally. Upon loading a house, however, loading took longer. I tested the speed of zoom in, zoom out, and of course, the elusive "gray mesh" I get. Both zoom in and zoom out were sluggish and froze. The gray mesh appeared but converted back to the object texture. It didn't last as long because only one compressed mesh was in the game. Like I said I remember I had plenty more and the meshes' textures took longer to regenerate.

Besides fucking up my game, the compressed mesh CC doesn't even show up in CAS. Having it compressed is totally senseless and pointless, to have your game run like a tortoise for an item that doesn't even appear.

EDIT: So far, cars I downloaded from MTS that have been converted don't slow the game down. I think it depends on the conversion and the mesh being converted.

Oh. Of course I wouldn't have told that unless I heard it from someone who gets paid doing that. But he doesn't play Sims or isn't familiar with the.. ehem.. efforts EA makes with their products and he only suggested it. Well, knowing what you know saved me the ever painful reinstalling my wormbox. ;)

I REALLY doubt that compressed or uncompressed objects affect save times at ALL because objects are never written back out to disk in any way, so the game has no reason to care.

I think I know what causes horrible save times, though. It occurred to me that the .sims3 saves are actually DBPF files, same as all other packages, and what's more, the game COMPRESSES them. This is a fairly computationally intensive activity, compared to decompressing them, and when I ran a save file through s3rc, I noticed it was taking about as long to compress them as the game did to save them in the first place.

Mystery solved. Huttah. As Pescado has updated s3rc (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15129.msg485447.html#msg485447) to fix this horror, the Compressorizer will be updated to make use of this feature tonight.

I noticed that when I removed households from Supreme Commander Radar, it shorted my save time to less than 2 minutes.  Then again, it was max 5 minutes with several on radar.

I was appalled yesterday when my save time shot up to 20 minutes after I installed a half dozen houses and just as many new hairs. I had on autosave every 15 minutes and I was saving more than I was playing. I quit the game and took out all my CC (except for AwesomeMod and 37 lesser mods). My save time was then 9 seconds. I don't know what they were thinking, but I'm afraid I'm going to have a hard time getting into and loving a Sims game without custom content.  :(

There is no "i" in "time"!

Oh... wait, that's "team", I meant. Sorry. Ne'ermind. I'll shut up, now.