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Title: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Riez Forester on 2006 April 16, 02:10:15
Hey guys... I think a lot of people will like this.

Theres a new adult "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage with a few adults interactions. For registered member only (I've registered abnd it's free :))


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 April 16, 05:21:57
I can't find it - perhaps you could supply a link?


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Riez Forester on 2006 April 16, 05:24:48
http://shaklin.ath.cx/xoops/modules/PDdownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6

Remember you should be registered to see it. Just login.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 16, 06:17:50
I wish he had an English version of his site.  It's hard to register when you can't read the form! :(


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Riez Forester on 2006 April 16, 06:21:14
There is an english translate button on the bar on the left.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: aussieone on 2006 April 16, 06:21:46
I wish he had an English version of his site.  It's hard to register when you can't read the form! :(

Just open the link, scroll to the bottom and select your language.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Marg on 2006 April 16, 06:25:04
 There is rainbow.    At the very bottom on the left hand side.    Choose the flag for the english for the site.



Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 16, 06:43:30
I never saw that before.  That certainly makes things easier!  All this time I was trying to navigate using Google translator, and it didn't always work well.  :(


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Marg on 2006 April 16, 06:49:26
 It does make things simpler.     I missed it when I joined a while ago.   I was hoping I had actually managed to register for the site, and not something else.       ;D


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Fat D on 2006 April 16, 09:38:56
some of the functions remind me of the objects by Hunter340x or whatever at MTS2.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 16, 09:57:13
I tried it out in my game, and it is interesting.  I was kind of annoyed that it reset all my sims so that everyone at work got sent home and all my sims I'd put to bed were standing up fully energized...and my toddlers had to be re-smartmilked.  ::)

I'm not sure how much I will use it, but it was fun to play with.  I can kind of see where he got some of the animations.  The one where the sim lies on their back for woohoo was kind of creepy, because I could see that it was the animation used for babies.  The sim has a wide-eyed, blank look in its eyes, and it holds its hands with the middle and ring fingers folded in with the others out.  It makes them look spastic.  :P  But the reason he used it is because the sim has its legs spread open.  I even played around with moveobjects when I had this happen with Bella once.  I've seen this before when I had a glitch with a sim who did nothing but lie on the ground and move like a baby.  It's cute when babies do it, but it's creepy on a grown sim. 

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/rainbow2k/snapshot_eef48155_902ceff6.jpg)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: aussieone on 2006 April 16, 10:02:30
I thought the mod was ok...the only problem I have with it is my sims are obsessed with it!

I wish the hack had an option to 'turn advertising off' like lizzloves beds.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Riez Forester on 2006 April 16, 10:59:39
My girl was laying on the bed, waiting for her bf. Suddently the girl next door walks in and 'do' her :P.
I rolled on the floor laughing (seriously, since my pc is on the floor)!


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 April 16, 16:19:47
My girl was laying on the bed, waiting for her bf. Suddently the girl next door walks in and 'do' her :P.
I rolled on the floor laughing (seriously, since my pc is on the floor)!
Pictures! I wanna see!
and how do you play on the floor? Don't you get body aches?


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: MutantBunny on 2006 April 16, 17:23:23
And the table? How was that done?


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: TaWanda on 2006 April 16, 19:22:08
 OMG, I saw a lot somewhere that had a morgue, combine it with this hack and you have a perfect setup for necrophilia. This game has some serious potential for all kinds of kinky
 and yes, my mind works in weird ways!  ;)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Mike on 2006 April 16, 19:27:39
I tried it out in my game, and it is interesting.  I was kind of annoyed that it reset all my sims so that everyone at work got sent home and all my sims I'd put to bed were standing up fully energized...and my toddlers had to be re-smartmilked.  ::)

I'm not sure how much I will use it, but it was fun to play with.  I can kind of see where he got some of the animations.  The one where the sim lies on their back for woohoo was kind of creepy, because I could see that it was the animation used for babies.  The sim has a wide-eyed, blank look in its eyes, and it holds its hands with the middle and ring fingers folded in with the others out.  It makes them look spastic.  :P  But the reason he used it is because the sim has its legs spread open.  I even played around with moveobjects when I had this happen with Bella once.  I've seen this before when I had a glitch with a sim who did nothing but lie on the ground and move like a baby.  It's cute when babies do it, but it's creepy on a grown sim. 

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/rainbow2k/snapshot_eef48155_902ceff6.jpg)

 :o Yuck, they're doing it on the dinner table.  :-X


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Marg on 2006 April 16, 19:34:01
  I wonder at the compatability of this to all the Awsome things I have in my game.    They have obviously pulled animations from all sorts of different activities.   I am not a modder and haven't the foggiest idea how to even start looking at something like this.   Is this a global mod or just an object one?

 I have the kiddie car that toddlers can ride from this site also.   The first time they use it you can see them zooming all over the house.   The second time they use it they become invisable along with the car.   You can still hear the car noises and the toddler giggling though.    It kind of reminded me a little of the problems we had with the Remote Car toy that comes with the game.   I have stopped using both Shaklins kiddie ride em car and the Remote Car in the game for this reason.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 16, 19:57:01
And the table? How was that done?
Moveobjects.  ;)  I had a glitch that rendered Bella as an infant, but no one could interact with her.

:o Yuck, they're doing it on the dinner table.  :-X
Doing what?  He's watching the kids play a video game.  (He also just happens to be naked.)  She's just lying on the table looking around.  ;)  I don't think they are even actually touching.  Gee, what did you think they were doing?   :o


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Pegasys on 2006 April 16, 20:26:23
Would be useful for a "Fatal Attraction"-type story...


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Karen on 2006 April 16, 20:55:00
A few observations after trying this hack:

Fun and Social don't seem to go up, at least for the females.  I tried a bunch of different Sims and either the motives are going up VERY slowly or not at all.  This was on a home lot, not sure if it makes a difference.

I happened to see the Social Bunny listed in the "Ask to Join" list (at least that is what I assume it means in English; the menu option is in German).  So I figured, why not try it?  The Social Bunny, minus the bunny costume, turned out to be a black-haired, light-skinned male with a mustache.  And after I had one of my Sims woohoo with him, she got a memory of "Woohoo with Social Bunny" that I certainly had never seen before  :D

Karen


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Mike on 2006 April 16, 22:53:48
The Social Bunny, minus the bunny costume, turned out to be a black-haired, light-skinned male with a mustache.

 ::) Oh baby, I gotta try this thing out!


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Karen on 2006 April 16, 23:34:52
Just as a test, I went back to that lot and tried it again.  There were two different Social Bunnies on the lot.  Without their bunny suits, one was a red-haired male with the short afro-style hair and the other was a female with long straight blond hair.  So, just be warned that you can't tell what gender the Social Bunny is ahead of time, and you may get a surprise when you invite them to join on this bed  ;D

Karen


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Mike on 2006 April 16, 23:44:09
Just as a test, I went back to that lot and tried it again.  There were two different Social Bunnies on the lot.  Without their bunny suits, one was a red-haired male with the short afro-style hair and the other was a female with long straight blond hair.  So, just be warned that you can't tell what gender the Social Bunny is ahead of time, and you may get a surprise when you invite them to join on this bed  ;D

Karen

This gives me more reasons why I should test this out.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Rose Outlaw on 2006 April 17, 01:24:32
I happened to see the Social Bunny listed in the "Ask to Join" list (at least that is what I assume it means in English; the menu option is in German).

"Bitten mitzumachen" means "Ask to Join", that's right. :)
And "Zusehen" means "Watch", if anyone cares...


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 April 17, 02:12:14

Doing what?  He's watching the kids play a video game.  (He also just happens to be naked.)  She's just lying on the table looking around.  ;)  I don't think they are even actually touching.  Gee, what did you think they were doing?   :o

I think they are having sex  ;D


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 17, 03:13:56

Doing what?  He's watching the kids play a video game.  (He also just happens to be naked.)  She's just lying on the table looking around.  ;)  I don't think they are even actually touching.  Gee, what did you think they were doing?   :o
I think they are having sex  ;D
Just goes to show how appearances can be deceiving.  ;)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 17, 03:42:01
That's it, I'm starting a Brothel. :D

Seems a very...interesting hack.  Just curious, is this a global hack that works on all beds (including custom), or simply a bed that's hacked?


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 17, 03:47:04
I think it's just a hacked bed.  It's an object, not a global hack, although it causes a reset for some reason.  Maybe that's the other file that lets you see the sims uncovered?

Oh, and if you really want to make things interesting, try using Crammyboy's penis hack with this...especially with the option to make the male "aroused."


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 17, 03:54:27
Thankyou for that. :)

The penis hack sounds like it'd be...entertaining. :D


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 April 17, 03:59:21
I think it's just a hacked bed.  It's an object, not a global hack, although it causes a reset for some reason.  Maybe that's the other file that lets you see the sims uncovered?
Oh, and if you really want to make things interesting, try using Crammyboy's penis hack with this...especially with the option to make the male "aroused."

Hehe, I've just started using Crammy's mod and the first time I tried it I got so embarassed!  Good thing I only live with my cat.  :-[ 


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: cwieberdink on 2006 April 17, 04:22:34

Oh, and if you really want to make things interesting, try using Crammyboy's penis hack with this...especially with the option to make the male "aroused."

Hehe, I've just started using Crammy's mod and the first time I tried it I got so embarassed!  Good thing I only live with my cat.  :-[ 

Well, Blue, even your sim had quite the reaction to Crammy's mod, remember!  LOL

C


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 17, 04:33:01
I'm feeling blonde (which is ironic, as my hair is naturally brunette, dyed black. :P) I can't find Crammyboy's penis mod. *nervous.*


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: cwieberdink on 2006 April 17, 04:39:15
Onion girl it's at MTS 2

in the adult section

C


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 17, 04:41:22
Muchas gracias. :)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 April 17, 05:37:47
Well, Blue, even your sim had quite the reaction to Crammy's mod, remember!  LOL

Heh, yes.  :-[  I sorta feel the same way, or at least I did at first.  Now, I just think it's funny.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 April 17, 08:02:46
I'm feeling blonde (which is ironic, as my hair is naturally brunette, dyed black. :P) I can't find Crammyboy's penis mod. *nervous.*

Cool, dyed black! Emo style? But doesn't the hair look weird when it grows out? I mean, black is an extreme color for anyone who is not naturally black haired (and to me, black hair is one of the nicest hair colors in the whole world. Most of my fav simmies have black hair too :P)

I have to check out the penis mod too...sounds a bit interesting  ;)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Tyyppi on 2006 April 17, 11:17:22
Heh, this object is great. Well, almost great. It doesn't seem to care about whether the sims are related or not so you have to keep your eye on your sims.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: fallenspades on 2006 April 17, 11:23:42
damn, the site's down.

edit: wait, it's up again.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 April 17, 15:18:29
Can someone who's tried this confirm something for me?  The only thing I added to my game last night was this, and the full set of dmaSim's worker and woohoo NPCs.  I did get the reset where the Sims on the lot are standing next to the bed when you first enter the lot, but I had two other problems that I'm not sure are related to this or the dmaSims stuff:

1) Add the 'love bed' to a lot, have the Sims on the lot use it, and then one goes to work.  Well, the Sim at work never comes home -- they get stuck at work and even the Lot Debugger can't recall them! I exited the lot without saving, and repeated the day without adding the love bed, and the Sim came home fine.

2) I went into a lot where one of the deceased parents was making robots before she died, and the lot had a cleanbot and a sentrybot active on it before adding these two items to my game. Also, her son had a sentrybot in his inventory, waiting for when he went to college (I want to see what fun a sentrybot could be in a dorm  ;)).  When I went into the lot last night, all three robots were gone -- no sign of them anywhere on the lot, no robot in the kid's inventory, and I know they weren't deleted manually.

I don't think the dmaSims NPCs would have anything to do with these two glitches (well, maybe the second), so I really suspect that the 'love bed' is the cause, since it seems to change a lot of globals.  I'm going to disable it next time I play and see if either of these problems crops up again, but I'm curious if anyone else encounters the same thing.

FYI, I have all three EPs in this game.




Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: MutantBunny on 2006 April 17, 17:30:10
I have Lizzlove's bed and Dannys girls and booths in my whore house. No problems, plenty of money coming in. :)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 April 17, 18:18:01
I have Lizzlove's bed and Dannys girls and booths in my whore house. No problems, plenty of money coming in. :)

Yea, I don't think it's the dmaSims stuff causing a problem -- I'm pretty sure it's this new 'love bed' (which isn't the same as Lizzlove's).


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 18, 00:31:06
I'm feeling blonde (which is ironic, as my hair is naturally brunette, dyed black. :P) I can't find Crammyboy's penis mod. *nervous.*

Cool, dyed black! Emo style? But doesn't the hair look weird when it grows out? I mean, black is an extreme color for anyone who is not naturally black haired (and to me, black hair is one of the nicest hair colors in the whole world. Most of my fav simmies have black hair too :P)

I have to check out the penis mod too...sounds a bit interesting  ;)
Well, my natural colour is quite dark to begin with, it is a change, but I loved it when it was done, I had quite a bit cut off too, and it's not Emo style, or at least, I don't think it is. And I'm not sure what happens when it grows out, I mean, black dye does tend to also fade to a very dark brown after a while, and you could always do root touch ups. :P


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 April 18, 03:03:18
I have Lizzlove's bed and Dannys girls and booths in my whore house. No problems, plenty of money coming in. :)


Define "plenty of money".  I haven't try running a whorehouse yet. It seems a lot of work...and requires a lot of energy  :D
And I hate a lot of work in my game.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 April 18, 03:06:02

Well, my natural colour is quite dark to begin with, it is a change, but I loved it when it was done, I had quite a bit cut off too, and it's not Emo style, or at least, I don't think it is. And I'm not sure what happens when it grows out, I mean, black dye does tend to also fade to a very dark brown after a while, and you could always do root touch ups. :P

Hmmm..it depends on the dye you use. But the color black is a tricky color if yours is not naturally black.  Root touch up is expensive. That's why I never dye my hair.... :P

Anyway, I think I like my hair color too. In any case, I keep it tied up and don't see it much.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 18, 04:05:14

Well, my natural colour is quite dark to begin with, it is a change, but I loved it when it was done, I had quite a bit cut off too, and it's not Emo style, or at least, I don't think it is. And I'm not sure what happens when it grows out, I mean, black dye does tend to also fade to a very dark brown after a while, and you could always do root touch ups. :P

Hmmm..it depends on the dye you use. But the color black is a tricky color if yours is not naturally black.  Root touch up is expensive. That's why I never dye my hair.... :P

Anyway, I think I like my hair color too. In any case, I keep it tied up and don't see it much.
True, I think it can also depend on the type of black you use. If the black you get is a very gothic, dark, almost synthetic looking black, it probably takes a lot longer to fade, and perhaps looks too dark, but if it's a black that in certain lights, could be mistaken for a very dark brown then I don't think it would be as bad when it starts to grow back.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 April 18, 04:07:25
So which kind is urs?  ;)



Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: Onion Girl on 2006 April 18, 04:09:33
The kind that'll likely fade with time, unless I re-dye it, which I probably will after a while. People have said it looks like a rather dark brown in some lights too.

God I'm glad I didn't go blonde. :D


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 April 18, 13:31:31
I have Lizzlove's bed and Dannys girls and booths in my whore house. No problems, plenty of money coming in. :)


Define "plenty of money".  I haven't try running a whorehouse yet. It seems a lot of work...and requires a lot of energy  :D
And I hate a lot of work in my game.

I setup a bordello last night -- just used a spare room in the house with two of the dma woohoo booths, one with a female hooker and one with a male. They each get $500 per woohoo (which of course means the household gets it), and the stream of customers was pretty constant.  I'd say about 4 an hour (they just continue to wander in off the street whenever there's an 'opening'), so that's $2k per hour.  The bordello automatically operates from 10am - 3am, so you do the math. :)

It was actually pretty funny to watch some of my VERY straight playable sims heading to the same-sex hooker for a little nookie... :)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 18, 13:53:19
The fact that you can make so much money with Danny's bordello was the reason he incorporated the police raid where they randomly come and charge you a steep fine.  However, many people complained about this, and he included and option where you can enable police raid if you want it.  ;)

I used Paladin's hack conflict scanner at www.SimWardrobe.com, and there is a potential conflict between Shaklin's no cover up mod and Crammyboy's Nudist hack.  So if you are using CB's nudist hack, I recommend not using Shaklin's no cover up mod at the same time.  I'm not sure what conflicts may arise, but they do mod some of the same globals, and it is definitely the cause of the sims being reset.  The bed still works fine without it.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 April 18, 15:37:30
I used Paladin's hack conflict scanner at www.SimWardrobe.com, and there is a potential conflict between Shaklin's no cover up mod and Crammyboy's Nudist hack.  So if you are using CB's nudist hack, I recommend not using Shaklin's no cover up mod at the same time.  I'm not sure what conflicts may arise, but they do mod some of the same globals, and it is definitely the cause of the sims being reset.  The bed still works fine without it.

Yea, but I'm not using Shaklin's no cover up, just Crammboy's mod. Still had problems with robots disappearing and noemptypotty no longer working until I took Shaklin's bed out. In fact, after I took it out the missing robots suddenly reappeared a couple of 'hours' after I started playing the lot, except they appeared in one of the resident's inventory rather than on the lot itself.



Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 April 18, 16:03:32
[Yea, but I'm not using Shaklin's no cover up, just Crammboy's mod. Still had problems with robots disappearing and noemptypotty no longer working until I took Shaklin's bed out. In fact, after I took it out the missing robots suddenly reappeared a couple of 'hours' after I started playing the lot, except they appeared in one of the resident's inventory rather than on the lot itself.
Very strange.  I guess in that case it's best to do without it then.  I'm not sure exactly how it works.  It would be nice if someone who knows how to read the code could take a look at it.  As for me, it was something fun to play with for a bit, but it's not something I'd use all the time in all my houses.  It is a good idea, but it still needs some work.  I have been noticing some odd things since installing it, nothing major, but just some things that didn't seem "right," so I think I'm going to take it out to see if that fixes it.

BTW:  I am still running NLp2 with Inge's noemptypotty hack, and I didn't notice it stop working.  So it must be something conflicting wtih either OFB or Phedge's hack.  (I think you said you were using Phedge's version, right?)


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 April 18, 16:11:33

BTW:  I am still running NLp2 with Inge's noemptypotty hack, and I didn't notice it stop working.  So it must be something conflicting wtih either OFB or Phedge's hack.  (I think you said you were using Phedge's version, right?)

Right, because I also use Phedge's nomidstreamstop, and I do have OFB. I haven't gone to a lot with a toddler yet since I came back from vacation (I had the problem on my 'test' version on my laptop), so I have to check if removing the bed solved the problem.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: MutantBunny on 2006 April 18, 17:01:03
Define "plenty of money".  I haven't try running a whorehouse yet. It seems a lot of work...and requires a lot of energy  :D
And I hate a lot of work in my game.

Several thousand the first day in a very small town, mostly custom made sims showed up too (my girls don't do no stinkin' townies--we practice discrimination--we are NOT politically correct in Weirdnesstown :)). I started a home business, tried the ticket machine which just makes Johns need a sales pitch. Stupid in a whore house (who doesn't know what they want if they go to a whore house??) so I got rid of it and stuck Inge's pay door in on the rooms with LizzLove's bed. Danny's booths make the most money, but the beds let the resident girls be the whores. :) Stick in Madam Smelly Whore to cook and clean for her girls and it's a profitable business. :) I don't know if the revewer will show up, but I have gotten a few loyalty stars. :) The whore house is right across the street from the barely profitable junk yard....


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: maxon on 2006 April 18, 21:36:55
The whore house is right across the street from the barely profitable junk yard....

I stuck my sims 1 whorehouse across the road from the Vicarage - no wait that was the coven.

Haven't round to rebuilding those yet.


Title: Re: New "Love Bed" at Shaklin's SimPage.
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 April 18, 23:40:31

BTW:  I am still running NLp2 with Inge's noemptypotty hack, and I didn't notice it stop working.  So it must be something conflicting wtih either OFB or Phedge's hack.  (I think you said you were using Phedge's version, right?)

Right, because I also use Phedge's nomidstreamstop, and I do have OFB. I haven't gone to a lot with a toddler yet since I came back from vacation (I had the problem on my 'test' version on my laptop), so I have to check if removing the bed solved the problem.


Ok, removing the bed didn't solve the problem with the noemptypotty hack, so something else is conflicting.  I'll have to run a scan and see what pops up.

the next morning: Well, no conflicts show up in a scan, so I'm going to drop back to Inge's version from Phedge's version and see what happens...

a couple of days later: ok, I dropped back to Inge's original noemptypotty and removed Phedge's hacks, and it works fine.  So it must have been some conflict in Phedge's stuff.