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Title: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 14, 00:54:26
I started with sims 2, OFB and NL and had no problems with my sime.

After adding Free time, Seasons and Uni my main sim skips everywhere. I don't know what to do.
 Thank you for any assistance.

Roberte


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Simsample on 2008 December 14, 02:20:33
Have you tried forcing an error on the sim?


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Count Four on 2008 December 14, 02:50:20
Does the sim have enough active points to have the Run Here option?  It may correct if you tell them to run somewhere.

Or Force Error - Reset.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: PirateFaafy on 2008 December 14, 02:58:38
Wait, are you talking about a jump bug, or simply the locomotion type? Is it honestly that big of a deal? I was under the impression that it was faster than walking.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 14, 11:02:58
Thank you for the responses.

Yes I have performed a force error with no success.

The sim, instead of walking from one place to another skips, not runs, skips. It is very annoying as my primary use of the Sims is Machinima and they have to perform their actions properly otherwise there is no point in recording them.

Re points. I max out all aspirations, motives, etc. as I want them to be at their best at all time so they perform exactly (or close to it)
as actors should. I wish them to have no free will at all.

Yes, skipping is "faster than walking" It also is slower than running. What is the point?

Any further suggestions?

Robert


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Marhis on 2008 December 14, 14:14:08
There's something wrong with your downloads, I guess. You need to test if the problem persists with no Download folder in place, and then, if problem goes away, do a binary search to find the culprit.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 14, 17:19:53
Actually, since adding the new games I hadn't added anything to my downloads folder so the only elements that were added were what the new games added. Previously  to adding them the sim performed with no problems. Aalso, this is the only sim who has this problem.

What exactly do you mean by "do a binary search"?

Thanks for the reply.

Robert


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Marhis on 2008 December 14, 17:39:44
Actually, since adding the new games I hadn't added anything to my downloads folder so the only elements that were added were what the new games added. Previously  to adding them the sim performed with no problems. Aalso, this is the only sim who has this problem.

I wasn't worrying about new stuff addeded, but about old stuff you already have in your DL folder, and how it works with new expansion packs. Before doing any speculation, you need to test the game without the Downloads folder, and see if that skipping still occurs. If it doesn't, then you'll be sure that there's something in your Downloads folder that clashes with new EPs, like an outdated hack or something like that.

Re: binary search. You'll find the instructions in the FAQs, here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7437.msg208008.html#msg208008).



Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Simsample on 2008 December 14, 17:51:17
What exactly do you mean by "do a binary search"?

Thanks for the reply.
Roberte, it's what we call the 50% method on MTS2. We've directed you to it many times. :)


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: jolrei on 2008 December 14, 17:53:28
If you added an EP (like FT) and did not replace your hacks, you are likely oldversioned.  Take out your downloads/hacks and test.  If the problem goes away then it was a hack problem.

In any case, you should delete all your hacks and replace with the appropriate versions.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: PirateFaafy on 2008 December 14, 17:59:48
There are many hacked items which can change a sim's locomotion methods. There is, in fact, something which I believe I saw under the name of the Locomotion Adjuster (or something along those lines) at MTS2. If this is just for Machinima, it would probably be better than simply fixing the problem, anyway.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 18, 19:49:51
Than ks much for all the new ideas. I will go through them one by one.

Why, using all of these suggestions, would only one sim have this problem? It would seem as if all of them would.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 December 18, 20:00:17
You might also try making the sim less playful.  :P Only playful sims will skip.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: rohina on 2008 December 18, 20:06:36
Than ks much for all the new ideas. I will go through them one by one.

Why, using all of these suggestions, would only one sim have this problem. It would seem as if all of them would.

Robert(e); today is Grammar Day. Your sentence needs, at the very least, a question mark, but more clarity would also be good.

Thank you for participating in Grammar Day.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 18, 20:33:32
Point taken. Sentence modified.

Re. clarity, I have 3 sims, only one of them skips when going from place to place. Usually there is a pie menu option to "go here", "skip here". or "run here."

This particular sim only skips.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: seelindarun on 2008 December 18, 20:59:15
Roberte, this forum is for reading as well as asking.  Jelenedra gave a perfectly good explanation for your question.

If your sim missing other destination options, you either have a borked sim, or a hack conflict.  Since you only want the sim for machinima, just clone him.  Note however, that unresolved hack conflicts may cause other problems for you, if you need these sims for an extended series.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 18, 21:08:48
I'm sorry but I meant no disrespect or lack of attention. I'm not sure how to make a sim "less playful."


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 December 18, 21:29:14
Do you know how to play the game with testing cheats enabled?

If you play the game with "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true" then you can change a sims's personality by clicking and dragging the trait up and down.

Playful sims will skip, active sims will run.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: jolrei on 2008 December 18, 21:31:32
I'm sorry but I meant no disrespect or lack of attention. I'm not sure how to make a sim "less playful."

Make sure debug mode is turned on.  With your mouse look at your sim's personality bars and slide the "Serious.....Playful" bar back toward "Serious".  If he only has 3-4 dots in blue, he will be less playful, and will conceivably stop skipping.

I would note that I have a sim who has a full playful bar (10 points) and has all options available for locomotion.  Thus, I suspect that this will not solve your problem.  

In that case you may still have "tight pants".  You are resisting the need to check your Downloads folder.  Take it out of your game, save it to desktop, and test your game.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 December 18, 21:36:50
It should be noted that sims that have less than 6 in the Lazy/Active bar will NEVER run. You can have playful and active sims that will do both.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: seelindarun on 2008 December 18, 21:59:38
Shouldn't all sims have a 'go here' option?  I think roberte has tight pants. ::)


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 December 18, 22:42:02
In the past, I have had sims stuck on "run". This has only occurred with children directly after they grow up. As far as I can recall, it has happened since basegame without hacks. The condition usually corrects itself once the sim goes off-lot. If this issue is similar, I would suggest taking the sim off-lot and seeing if they reset back to a default walk.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: jolrei on 2008 December 19, 04:32:03
Usually there is a pie menu option to "go here", "skip here". or "run here."
This particular sim only skips.

This implies to me that the pie menu does not include other options besides skip for this sim.  If that is the case, the sim may be borked.  The Zazazu offworld travel method might snap the sim out of it. (I've seen the running bug as well, but never with a loss of pie menu options)

However:
Actually, since adding the new games I hadn't added anything to my downloads folder so the only elements that were added were what the new games added. Previously to adding them the sim performed with no problems.

...which implies that n00berte has installed a new EP and not replaced hacks and CC.  Hence tight pants. 

Have you removed your Downloads and tested yet, n00berte?


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 19, 12:29:28
Jolrei.

The pie menu has  "go here", "skip here" and "run here" all available.

No, I have yet to try removing my download folder and trying it. I will today.

I think the suggestion to try cloning my sim and replacing the problem one might be a feasible solution but I have to try that today as well. However it would be good to know as many reasons why this behavior occurs just for info.

I Thank everyone who has contributed toward this end.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Roux on 2008 December 19, 14:01:57
It should be noted that sims that have less than 6 in the Lazy/Active bar will NEVER run.

Actually, I've found that lazy sims will often run if their energy motive is between 3/4 and full. It's not consistent, but it can be helpful in the mornings for the carpool/bus shuffle. Also, if you're encouraging a lazy sim to be active, you only need to get him somewhere between 5 and 6 points for "Run Here" to show up on his pie menu.


Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: roberte on 2008 December 19, 20:02:11
Stranger & stranger. I tried importing a new version of my sim, placed her on a lot, opened my game & was going to import her but suddenly the skipping is not happening.

The only thing I did aside from that was that before I last closed my game I used an insiminator add on the "deleter" to delete the problem sim. When I reopened the problem sim was back without the problem.

I guess I'll see how long it lasts.



Title: Re: Sim won't stop skipping
Post by: Kazzandra on 2008 December 19, 23:51:32
This has only occurred with children directly after they grow up. As far as I can recall, it has happened since basegame without hacks. The condition usually corrects itself once the sim goes off-lot. If this issue is similar, I would suggest taking the sim off-lot and seeing if they reset back to a default walk.

I always thought the newly-grown running child thing was a feature. How disappointing.