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Title: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 11, 11:36:24
 >:( Okay, I'm mad.

I installed Bon Voyage and IT WON'T FRELLING LOAD! I get an error telling me that i have an "emulation software conflict" and a big "ok" button. I ran the diagnostic the help suggested and was told my dvd ripper was causing the conflict.

So I deleted dvd shrink, and Daemon tools and it still won't load. What now? and please don't say uninstall everything and start over from scratch.

I have everthing except OFB.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 11, 11:59:40
Before deleting Daemon, did you remove the mount points?  Also, what is the exact text of the error message you are getting?

Your best bet at this point is probably to use YASU to block the SecuRom check.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 September 11, 12:04:08
I get the "conflict with emulation software" message also, as opposed to the security module error, and this occurs even with YASU loaded. It is a mystery why this happens. The NoCD does not have any of these issues. Perhaps some other program not part of YASU/DT is being detected as Evil.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 11, 12:18:16
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/chibimethos/error.jpg)
 Here's the error message: "Conflict with emulation software detected."
Very helpful. 


Before deleting Daemon, did you remove the mount points?  Your best bet at this point is probably to use YASU to block the SecuRom check.

What's a mount point and what's YASU?  I tried to disable the SecuRom check, but it didn't work.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 11, 13:26:52
What's a mount point and what's YASU? 

Daemon creates virtual drives on your system in order to mount cd images.  If you simply delete Daemon without first removing the drives, said mount points still exist and will be detected by some SecuROM and SafeDisc checks.  To remove the mounts, you can go through the registry (frustrating) or reinstall Daemon and make sure to set number of devices to zero from the right click menu (easier). 

Yet Another Securom Utility (YASU) attempts to stop SecuROM and SD from seeing virtual drives.  Some people are having a problem using it with BV, although I personally have experienced no issues. 

There could be other programs causing the error message.  If you have CLoneCD or Alcohol 120, they might be giving you problems.  Also, old registry keys left over from Daemon or any other emulation software might trip the protection.  Use a reg cleaner to try and eliminate these.

As Pescado mentions, using a No-CD crack seems to be the easiest way around the issue you are having.

As a final note, if you are trying to play from a legitimate cd, make sure you send EA a note criticizing their use of invasive copy protection.     


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 11, 14:01:23
I'll try the no-cd crack and damn ea!


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: seapup on 2007 September 11, 17:22:14
The only time I have seen that particular error, (conflict with emulation software detected), was when I had to restart my computer and I forgot to load YASU before trying to load the game.
If it helps at all I'm running YASU 1.3.7071 and Daemon tools 4.06. I've tried the newer builds of both programs and could not get them to work, but this combination seems to be working fine.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 11, 18:24:20
I found and ran a regisrty cleaner, which eliminated 599  . . . whatevers. Then I installed YASU and I reenstalled Daemon, set devises to zero and uninstalled it. now i have a different error message:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/chibimethos/error2.jpg)

 ??? What the hell does that mean? ???


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 11, 18:26:39
Websense blocks photobucket.  Could you type the message for me?


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 11, 18:34:58
Sure. It says:

A Required Security module cannot be activated.
This program cannot be executed (5023)



Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: KellyQ on 2007 September 11, 18:52:15
Not to hijack your thread but I'm getting the same exact message when I try using my legally bought copy of Game Jackal with my legally bought copy of BV. The only difference is the error code (it's 1000 or 1200, don't remember exactly which). Game Jackal has always worked with every game I've owned up until now.  >:(

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Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 11, 19:27:31
The message you are both seeing occurs when the emulator check embedded in the executable encounters some trace of Daemon, YASU, Alcohol 120 or similar software.  There are potential ways to get around it via the registry (read through the first page of this thread (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,9511.0.html) for more info), but the best solution is to just find a NoCD crack and use it instead.  I think this one (http://tinyurl.com/2xo2jv) has been confirmed working.  Instructions for using it can be found in the thread I link above, on the second page.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 11, 20:12:57
B, I owe you a GIANT virtual kiss. Thank you. It's working, so now I can play it and see what else is broken. :P


 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: Invisigoth on 2007 September 11, 23:04:50
I am so sorry because this is completely off topic, but Chiby, your desktop background makes me fart hearts in your general direction. It is so cool! DO WANT!


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 September 12, 00:21:03
That's funny -- It gives me a headache. How on earth do you locate your icons on that thing? *blinks*


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: LFox on 2007 September 12, 00:35:33
That's funny -- It gives me a headache. How on earth do you locate your icons on that thing? *blinks*

Yeah i kinda wonder the same thing.  You know what my desktop has?  ONE icon, and that's the recycling bin.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 12, 00:55:49
One Icon?!  That's so cluttered!  Here's what a neat desktop looks like:

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6073/untitledvg2.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6073/untitledvg2.jpg)

Of course, this is only the working half of my desktop.  The shortcut half is a bit more crowded.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: LFox on 2007 September 12, 01:03:05
One Icon?!  That's so cluttered!  Here's what a neat desktop looks like:

Of course, this is only the working half of my desktop.  The shortcut half is a bit more crowded.

I know but unfortunately i've never found a way to get rid of the recycling bin.  lol nice backdrop btw.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 12, 01:08:44
I know but unfortunately i've never found a way to get rid of the recycling bin.

On XP, you need to look for this key:
Code:
{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}
...in this location:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace
...and delete it.  The bin will go bye-bye after a few minutes.  To get it back, simply recreate the key in the same place.  In the meantime, use CCleaner to empty the clutter.

Vista uses a different key, and I don't really want to tell you where it is, because I think I'm the only one to find it thus far.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: LFox on 2007 September 12, 01:23:39
I know but unfortunately i've never found a way to get rid of the recycling bin.

On XP, you need to look for this key:
Code:
{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}
...in this location:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace
...and delete it.  The bin will go bye-bye after a few minutes.  To get it back, simply recreate the key in the same place.  In the meantime, use CCleaner to empty the clutter.

Vista uses a different key, and I don't really want to tell you where it is, because I think I'm the only one to find it thus far.

Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: neriana on 2007 September 12, 09:27:43
That's funny -- It gives me a headache. How on earth do you locate your icons on that thing? *blinks*

No kidding. All those pictures, and some of them stretched out in weird proportions, and the subject matter...


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 September 12, 09:31:35
Your desktop is too flashy, B. Mine just has a bland, generic, Windoze Classic Blue. No desktop wallpaper at all. :P No funny neonic curvy buttons. Just good, old fashioned, square, blocky.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: witch on 2007 September 12, 10:27:17
This is my current desktop

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/nz_witch/desktop.jpg)

This is what I have on my laptop

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/nz_witch/poor_pluto_1600x900-1.jpg)

BTW What happens to deleted files if the rubbish bin is deleted from the desktop - does it just delete the icon?


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: miramis on 2007 September 12, 10:33:11
With Vista you can click Customize Destkop, then look for the 'Change Desktop Icons', when you have that open just uncheck the box next to the recycle bin. 

I don't know what happens if you just delete it though.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: B on 2007 September 12, 10:49:17
Your desktop is too flashy, B. Mine just has a bland, generic, Windoze Classic Blue. No desktop wallpaper at all. :P No funny neonic curvy buttons. Just good, old fashioned, square, blocky.

Since Vista does the whole transparent borders thing, I like having something to see around the edges.

Also, to maximize your energy efficiency, you should really be using either an all black desktop if your display is CRT or an all white desktop for LCD.  I expect better from you.

Quote from: witch
BTW What happens to deleted files if the rubbish bin is deleted from the desktop - does it just delete the icon?

The recycle bin still exists; you just can't see it on the desktop.  As I mentioned, you can use CrapCleaner to empty the deleted files from time to time.

With Vista you can click Customize Destkop, then look for the 'Change Desktop Icons', when you have that open just uncheck the box next to the recycle bin. 


Well, that would explain why nobody has posted instructions for deleting the icon through the registry.  Here I was thinking I had been all clever, when in fact Microsoft beat me to the punch.


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 September 13, 03:50:54
My background image is the standard PC "Crystal" blue/green/purple thing, but I am an icon hog and typically have three rows of 15 icons each on the left side.

Bad Mac user habits never die. :)


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 September 13, 09:54:08
On the Windows side of my WinMac™ I have a dozen or so icons arranged in a lovely inverted pyramid on the left side of the desktop, ending with the recycle bin at the very bottom. The desktop itself is basic grey. My Mac desktop is much more stylish -- white with subtle grey swirls. I have maybe three icons on the Mac desktop. Apparently, I'm much more efficient on the Mac. :D


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: ChibyMethos on 2007 September 13, 12:03:34
your desktop background makes me fart hearts in your general direction. It is so cool! DO WANT!

The air freshener of love says thank you.  :-* Excuse me, while I become a 3 year old for a moment:  J/C 4-ever!
Thank you. Juvenlie moment passed.

How on earth do you locate your icons on that thing?

ROTFLOL I don't know, i just can. If it's any consolation, my sister hates it too. ;D


Title: Re: Bon Voyage won't load >:(
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 September 19, 02:20:46
Since Vista does the whole transparent borders thing, I like having something to see around the edges.

Also, to maximize your energy efficiency, you should really be using either an all black desktop if your display is CRT or an all white desktop for LCD.  I expect better from you.
The flaw is that all black and all white desktops make it hard to see all white windows and all black text/icons. Energy efficiency is simply not a concern for me, as my computers are nuclear-powered, and the radioactives will decay and generate power regardless of whether I use that power or not. Therefore, it is more energy-efficient for me to use all of the available power than it is to try to conserve any of it, as the rate at which radioactives decay cannot be altered.