Why sell cheap stuffs if you can sell plasma TV's and Expensive hot tubs?

[LordHellscream]

It seems like when your business ranking gets higher and you get more loyal customers, it will be just as easy to sell a plasma tv (11000 simoleon at regular price tag) as selling a book on a shelf (69 simoleons)
So say, why would anyone who wanna make big $ open a food/flower store and not a Plasma tv store or hot tub store?

My community business lot generated 230k in ONE session (the session was about 30 hours or so) and i was mainly selling computers (the expensive one), and a few plasma tv, im curious what kind of money ill make if i only sell plasma tv or hot tubs.
FYI, the business ranking is 10, 5 employees (gold sales x 2, silver restockerx1, gold registerx1, and a manager who i assigned to be register) my own family (1 human and 2 servos) helped but the whole thing was relatively autonomous
the snapdragon really helped tho, i place those all over the place to keep my customers and employees in better mood (only one or two in one spot so energy wont drain too fast)

[Motoki]

There really is no reason other than to get your rank up fast. Once you've reach 10, there's absolutely no point.

Kind of lame if you ask me, but that's the way the game is set up. *shrug*

[LordHellscream]

Yea it is pretty unrealistic, cuz in rl, shops like wal-mart or mcdonalds that sells alot of cheap things makes more money than say any car-dealership.

Can anyone with a prima guide tell me whats the exact formula to determine if a Dazzle interaction succeed or fail?
It looks like there is something to do with business ranking, cuz when i first got gold sales at my home business i used it on customers and failed a LOT. so i was afraid to use it and now i tried again on my level 10 electronic store and i succeed everytime except once and i checked using mind-control mirror, the customer was in a negative mood.

[Motoki]

IIRC, business rank has no effect and I've in fact used it successfully with a low rank.

I believe having some relationship with the sim helps, and the sim's personality may make a difference as well as your sim's mood. I'm at work but if no one else beats me to it, I check when I get home and tell you exactly what it says.

[LordHellscream]

im not saying i didnt succeed at low ranking, but i didnt succeed very often, but it almost always work now
and i dont have any kind of relationship with most of my customers if at all.
and the only time i failed the customer had like 30 daily with me (compare to 0 daily of most others)

[Motoki]

Well I'm going off of memory here mind you, but I'm pretty sure I don't remember the guide saying anything about the business rank effecting the chances of dazzle's success.

If someone else has access to the book right now please feel free to confirm or correct this.

[LordHellscream]

then may be it has something to do with customer loyalty?

[Pegasys]

Dazzle's success depends upon mood of customer, relationship of customer to salesman, and personality of customer (more outgoing, more likely to succeed).

Business Rank effect customer traffic and of course, perks available.

Dazzle works well (only available with Gold Sales) but does take a hit on the energy of the salesperson. I'd only use it for big ticket items and/or if an Energizer is nearby. 

[Motoki]

So basically, an assess before a dazzle is useful. Schmoozing the customers so you get some sort of relationship is useful. You could also use the glasses to get the relationship up even more and/or the perk that boosts initial relationships. I'm not sure how to tell who is outgoing unless they get naked in a hot tub or are a known house barger in the neighborhood.

[LordHellscream]

AHHHHH the mood!!!!!!!!!
that must be it!!! the snapdragon strikes again! LOL
those magic flowers keeps the customers happy and that is why my dazzle succeed more often than my home business (with no snapdragon)

Snapdragons are.. way too good.

Conclusion: flower-arranging is THE first talent you should learn for any successful business

[Motoki]

Or hire an employee with a gold badge to make some.

If you don't have snapdragons and don't have access, then I can at least say you should watch out for making sales pitches to pregnant sims. Their needs go down really fast and their mood along with it. :O

[cyperangel]

the snapdragon really helped tho, i place those all over the place to keep my customers and employees in better mood (only one or two in one spot so energy wont drain too fast)

I know this is off on a tangent, but does the snapdragon deplete energy when it boosts the other moods?

[sanmonroe]

the snapdragon really helped tho, i place those all over the place to keep my customers and employees in better mood (only one or two in one spot so energy wont drain too fast)

I know this is off on a tangent, but does the snapdragon deplete energy when it boosts the other moods?

No, it doesn't replenish but does slow energy depletion.

So having a lot full of snapdragons you can easily get 24 hour shifts out of your employees before neding a rest.

They are silly overpowered.

[Motoki]

Haha, but the evil stinky snapdragon does the reverse and drains needs as well as omitting a foul odor. 

[LFox]

Dazzle only ever works for me on customers with 3 loyalty rating or higher.  It works on customers with 2 IF they are very good mood, i always ignore the relationship with the sims.

I got a few customers on 5 ranking, when they walk in i show them plasma tvs over and over and dazzle them.  I can rake up some big dollars that way.

[LordHellscream]

Rally Forth is overpowered! My servo got it (from home business that he owns, but can be used anywhere)
since servo only has 3 needs, and rally forth  does NOT drain power (does drain energy but NOT power), i went to my community business with him only and kept rally forth rally forth rally forth in where my employees are, and then find someone to play kicky balls to quickly replenish social and use macro-kick stuffs to fix fun, i keep doing for like 4 whole days now and all my employees are green mood. i only need to stop once for a looooong time to recharge under the sun (its quick)

[J. M. Pescado]

Heheh, count on us to find all the abusive loopholes.

[Jysudo]

Well, you can start selling ridiculously expensive bathtubs and whateverelse once you reached a certain level of sucess with ur business...

You cannot do that if you are starting out and no cheating. 'cos the capital cost for those expensive stuff is high and not to mention you need a certain shop size to accomdate all the items.

Selling hot tubs is waay too cool. I put the item off sale after business hours got those silly romantics to woo hoo in it like crazy and sell the bathub (ahem, used bathtub) off at $11,700 and more next day and no one is none the wiser or wider

Life is waay too good in the Sims. If real life is like that, no more slogging! 

[J. M. Pescado]

"Depreciation" also has no effect on your item's sale cost. Neither does being broken or dirty. I have a store for selling used cars, "Honest John's Used Autos", right across the street from a store for selling used terlets, "Honest Otto's Used Johns".

Business rank means nothing, also. The important factor to selling anything is having a gold sales badge. Dazzle can sell ice to Eskimos. No matter how ridiculously expensive it is, or how USELESS it is, Dazzle can sell it. Even a puddle of piss can be sold.

[Jysudo]

If deprecation means nothing...

But does decoration helps? I mean having those huge ninjas statues, do they actually count towards something towards customer preference to purchase?

Dazzle doesn't always work. When it doesn't, the whinny customer get a dark cloud exploding over his head.

[Zoltan]

The Big Ninja by Big Yard Dudes, Inc.

price: 5,500

need effects: fun 3 (view)   environment 10

need max: fun up to 95 (view)



from the guide

[LordHellscream]

Business rank means nothing

correct me if im wrong, but it seems like the buy bars goes up on its own and the higher your business rank the fast it climbs (on its own) sometimes my customers buy plasma tv without my sales employee helping at all (they were too buy helping other customers)
also I noticed that hard sell doesn't decrease customer loyalty but increases it. and it adds a large amount to the buy bar , not as much as dazzle does but it doesnt drain energy

[sanmonroe]

Manipulate lowers loyalty. hard sell doesn't if it works.

If it fails you get a nice hit to daily and should get a loyalty hit.


And rank DOES play a role. There are more suckers to buy your crap.

Anyway, with a gold sales badge, Max outgoing, high nice, and snapdragons around, you can pretty much spam sell plasma TVs at 10k+ as fast as you can restock them. Its like using a cheat for money if you are a SLLLLLOOOOWWW typist. One dazzle will complete the sale, then invite them to look at the one next to it, dazzle, repeat....

[Emma]

I have a store for selling used cars, "Honest John's Used Autos", right across the street from a store for selling used terlets, "Honest Otto's Used Johns".

I want to know which is the most successful business!

[J. M. Pescado]

And rank DOES play a role. There are more suckers to buy your crap.

Yes and no. More suckers to buy your crap is not really an issue because you can keep peddling crap to the same sucker. More suckers, after a very early point, will simply saturate your sales bandwidth. When your prices are all "Ridiculously Expensive", you will probably not get a sale unless a salesperson manipulates the customer into buying it. Therefore, having more customers than salespeople by a significant margin simply doesn't help.