I'm not sure what might be blocking your stairs after 24 hours. It sound suspiciously like the "piano isn't fun after 24 hours" bug where some data gets corrupted after that time.  "Working as designed"... but Maxis changed their minds after being shown exactly why it's a bug, not a feature.  Maybe MaxoidTom understands our frustration now.  And with NO feedback loop on the feedback form, there will be no way to tell Maxis why it's a bug, not a feature, using the official form.  Not that the modders, who are the best ones to tell Maxis why it's a bug, will be using the form;  they'll be too busy fixing the bugs. *sighs*

Hook

I run my game with "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true" running and have all kinds of error reports for my missing nanny mobile, and some of the poker table (missing animations, mostly), and still others for the game machines. The only thing I don't see a report in there for is the people leaving as soon as they get there for a date. Would it help if I sent in the a single copy of each type of error report so that they can see what is happening? I'm going to go through them one by one. Hopefully, I'll find one that mentions the leaving early problem.

Just to make sure it doesn't get overlooked again.  Custom terrain paints or ground covers are a big problem for all stages of the game.
They attach to lots when not needed. If they are deleted or disabled they cause game crashes.
Replication is simple make some and use them or  download a lot with custom terrain paints and then delete them or one of them.

Then fix the Goth tree, Maxis. Crumplebottom #1 is Mortimer's aunt and is buried in his back yard. This one is nowhere on his tree.

MaxoidTom replication of Terrain Paint problem is quite simple....make some or download any lot with them  and use them on a lot.  Delete them or one of them  and see what happens to all  lots that have them.  Also try apppling just one without all being attached to lot or try to package a lot without them.

Sorry if this is an ignorant question: how do we check our objects.package files for corruption?

Tx as always,
DC

Yup, I've always had this issue too.

Now the terrain paints and ground cover instability, resulting in corrupt & crashing lots has been mentioned again, I'd like to bump that up to MaxoidTom's notice and ask for a comment please.

Has anyone else had this happen? The Contessa just sort of randomly bit Mrs. Crumplebottom. I didn't even know that was possible . . . but it seems to suit her. Can't you just see her saying "The light! I must flee!"

Attached are a few photos of the event. Just after being bitten, Mrs. Crumplebottom proceeded to thwack the offending vampire with her purse.

Not sure what you mean by this.  I have the UK version and all the spellings are American.  It drives me totally insane!  I have changed what I can in SimPE, but I can honestly say the spellings are NOT UK English.  If they were, we'd have neighboUrhoods and centREs and so on and we don't.  I really do wish something could be done about this, I was horrified to discover it wasn't in TS2.  It was so bad with TS1 that my handbooks were half UK English and half US, including some words which were spelt both ways.  If you need an editor with a photographic memory and journalistic experience, I'm available at a moment's notice ... and yes, I AM serious!!!

So that is what the pie-menu lightning bolts mean!  I had no idea.  Seems like a minor effect, particularly since the significant issue for most Romantic interactions isn't "can I initiate this?" but rather "will this be accepted?"  Kiss and Woohoo being the definitive examples.  Perhaps Chemistry affects the requirements for that as well?  I think we're all aware that Kiss acceptance requires Best Friend status, and Woo-hoo requires mutual Love.

 - Gus

Thanks for clearing that up Maxoid Tom, perhaps someone could ask Maxoid Kane to add that part into her post on the Nightlife section of the BBS?  Looking through the Sims2UK forums it seems I wasn't the only one who didn't realise UK English would come under the foreign languages part so I'll let them know too if that's okay.

The watch out routine is simply a general rule to keep sims from idling on the driveway. The way its currently written it doesn't check to differentiate whether or not the sim getting out of the vehicle is idling on the driveway or not, or whether or not it matters since the sim is the driver of the only vehicle owned on the lot, so it simply kicks in the routine to kick them off the driveway. Now, why it kills any cued actions afterwards I am not sure about, I never understood why certain actions or cued in such a way as to not only override any subsequent actions, but to nullify them as well.

Of course I could be way off base.

Maxoid Tom about #8  (Karaoke singing not heard).

I have the English UK version, putting the audio settings to highest didn't make a blind bit of difference.  The 3rd party fix from http://shaklin.sh.funpic.org/modules/PDdownloads/viewcat.php?cid=9 did fix it though so perhaps someone could take a look at that download?  I have the Audigy 2 ZS with the ctaud2k.sys driver (version 5.12.0001.0442 (English)) running on XP Home.  I have submitted this information through the form except for the part about my TS2 being EnglishUK.

Incidentally, I thought there was going to be a patch in Nightlife but if there is, I received no notification that my game was being patched.  It said it was checking to see if my game was up-to-date and said it was immediately, there was definitely no patching occurring at that point.

I have to agree with everyone, however, i must say that most bugs that ARE real bugs, are easily reproduced, since they happen 100% of the time.

examples:

01 - Teenage vampire girl body skin is a lot more bluish than her head's skin.
02 - The DJ animation for slow music is the same for fast music. the music is slow, but he keeps hopping up and down and shouting UH-UH.
03 - Make Bed action is not cancellable.
04 - Turn off the stero action is not cancellable.
05 - sims will walk as much as they need to put the coffe cup on a end table. even if they need to go up 5 floors to do it.
06 - Asking what job a sim have, return a response with "$jobTitle" instead of the atual job's name.
07 - Bowling alley don't have sounds of the ball hitting the pins even with audio settings on highest.
08 - Karaoke Machine don't play sim's voices even with audio settings on highest.
09 - Various NPCs are beeig duplicated lots of times. like the barista NPC, that is recreated everytime the game need one.
10 - the Smart Milk bug where a sim will get the bottle and place it in the fridge whenever the toddler is on the highchair
11 - The level 6 greekhouse non pledge bug

From what I understand, that bug does not effect the US English version of the game (and possibly the UK English version as well?) but stems from an oversite where they forgot to translate the job titles into other languages. Which I guess also explains how they missed it, since I assume they were testing the English version.

What I would like to see is a problem report tool for submitting errors which cause an interaction to be reset (i.e. that makes Sims 'jump') which clearly shows the user when the problem happened, which Sims were interacting when it happened, and what the interaction was.  In this way they have almost all the information they need to submit a properly-documented bug, and they will have a clear idea what they were doing prior to that particular event.

Also, rather than simply have the interaction reset and carry on as though nothing is wrong, there should be some sign that a problem has been recorded and give the user the option to pause what they are doing and report what has happened there and then.  An in-game error report tool is one sign that a developer has planned for the existence of errors and taken time to responsibly address the issue.

I hate to really sound sour about the whole issue, but this is what happened after Uni was released.

The form was put up for 4 months before anything was mentioned of it again.  We submitted form after form, and apparently they went *poof* somewhere in lalaland, because nothing yet has been done...i.e. we still don't have the patch for Uni.

Part of the reason why coming here to this BBS helps you out so much Tom is that it's easier to get more detailed information that someone simply submitting a post...you can ask for clarification and get it here.

I thought with that, ya'll had finally learned something.

Guess that I was wrong.

Ivy

Alright, well, before I turned on testingCheatsEnabled true, I noticed in both adult's queues, they had abvout five things, all with the "Love Potion #8.5"'s icon in them. The man autonmously drank the love potion, and then went to ask his wife, Gina, about her turn-ons/offs. Anyway, I turned the cheat on, and then looked in that log file. (Right?)

I'm not sure what to look for, actually, but I found a bit at the end about the woman, Gina:

Object being deleted on tick   168471   :   Memory - EP2 - Attraction Marker   ID   385, in tree   Function - Main   ID   4097    on node   2    with object   Memory - EP2 - Attraction Marker   as me, and object   Memory - EP2 - Attraction Marker    as the tree owning object
Object being deleted on tick   168569   :   N004_User00181 - Gina   ID   546, in tree   Interaction - Use Love Potion   ID   8230    on node   5    with object   N004_User00181 - Gina   as me, and object   N004_User00181 - Gina    as the tree owning object, stack object   N004_User00181 - Gina   ID   546
Object being deleted on tick   168579   :   Emitter - Me So Sexy   ID   554, in tree   Function - Main - Track Sim - SG   ID   8196    on node   22    with object   Emitter - Me So Sexy   as me, and object   Emitter - Me So Sexy    as the tree owning object
Object being deleted on tick   169478   :   Social - What Turns You On/Off   ID   543, in tree   Function - Main - SG   ID   8193    on node   2    with object   Social - What Turns You On/Off   as me, and object   Social - What Turns You On/Off    as the tree owning object, stack object   Social - What Turns You On/Off   ID   543
Object being deleted on tick   169581   :   N004_User00181 - Gina   ID   543, in tree   Interaction - Use Love Potion   ID   8230    on node   5    with object   N004_User00181 - Gina   as me, and object   N004_User00181 - Gina    as the tree owning object, stack object   N004_User00181 - Gina   ID   543
Object being deleted on tick   169600   :   Emitter - Me So Sexy   ID   552, in tree   Function - Main - Track Sim - SG   ID   8196    on node   22    with object   Emitter - Me So Sexy   as me, and object   Emitter - Me So Sexy    as the tree owning object

MaxoidTom, I have a serious problem with Nightlife. Ya see, there's this one lot, and everytime I load it up, everything is normal. After a few seconds, however, the two adult Sims disappear from the Sim Selection menu, along with their characters themselves. They are still alive, just removed from play. The Toddler, however, stays. If I save, and load it back up, they respawn in front of the house, only to disappear again.

Before that house, I had another Sim go downtown with the adult male of that family. His wife was there as well, and when the date ended, I had my Sim go home. I was suspecting the game thought those two Sims were still at that community lot (?). I dunno. Any ideas?

Right.  The menu option for Plan Outfit...Undies does not exist on the changing table, no matter how many outfits you buy.  Try it for yourself and see. 

And, now that I'm thinking about it, I might as well add:  There is no "Dress <toddler name> in Undies" option on the changing table either.  If you're going to fix Plan Outfit, you need to add this too or it will be useless.

Karen 

MaxoidTom:

   One issue I have seen mentioned here and elsewhere that has not been addressed:  There is still no way to Plan Outfit...Undies for toddlers using the changing table.  Even after the changing table was fixed in a patch to allow you to Plan Outfit for Everyday and PJ's, there is still no way to use the toddler underwear (diapers) created in Body Shop, because the changing table does not have a Plan Outfit...Undies option.  Are you guys ever going to fix this issue?  People have been bringing this up since the first week that the game was released, a full year ago.  Is there any possibility at all of getting this fix in the NL patch, or in a future EP? 

   If you do not intend to fix it, then can you please explain why the option is still there in Body Shop to create custom content that cannot be used in-game?

   Karen

MaxoidTom! Need a Q answered!

The "Idle/Dumb Sims at the edge of a lot Lagging the Game" problem...

This is being worked on for the patch, I think I recall you saying?
Or is this from something unrelated to an actual bug?

And if it is being patched, will we have to destroy the lots and redo them, or can it fix them up right?