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176  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: So what's been fixed in NL on: 2005 September 13, 20:09:45
missing icons from multi gen families, greek amnesia, npcs and townies amnesia when brought into play, death tombstone and inheritence bug, baby lecture, stuck bills, repoed diploma, some party bugs...just a few off the top of my head.

missing icons for multi-gen families - not aware of any problem, perhaps you could elaborate
greek amnesia - Nightlife and Uni patch
stuck bills - Nightlife patch and Uni patch
death tombstone and inheritence bug - i think this is a big neighborhood problem.  we increased the max iterations limit in Nightlife, but I'm not immediately aware of anything specific
repo'd diploma - Nightlife patch and Unii patch
baby lecture - please explain?
party bugs - elaborate?
177  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: So what's been fixed in NL on: 2005 September 13, 18:47:01
I tried posting this on MTS2 but it got deleted....

So, does anyone know what bugs have been patched in NL?
Hated Maxoid --- nudge nudge.

TA



Let me know which ones you are concerned about and I'll do some digging.  Otherwise, it may be a bit tough for me to wade through all the changes to see what exactly has been fixed.
178  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife bugs on: 2005 September 13, 18:24:13
I heard something about putting out a list, but that was a little while ago.  My suggestion is to keep constructively pressing for a list of fixes.  Anything in particular that you are worried about, besides everything? =)
It's great to have you here.  You are very brave.  It's something to have a Maxoid here in this most irreverent of forums! Cheesy

I'm a glutton for punishment. =)
179  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife bugs on: 2005 September 13, 18:23:45
Okay well that's all good news pretty much. Any chance for a list of what was fixed either on Sims2.com or on the Nightlife CD?

I heard something about putting out a list, but that was a little while ago.  My suggestion is to keep constructively pressing for a list of fixes.  Anything in particular that you are worried about, besides everything? =)

Thanks for coming by and sharing the helpful info with us.  Kiss You're definitely not hated, we're just unimpressed with the behavior of your bosses. I'm more than happy to keep constructively pressing for a list of fixes and that all future support be provided in a timely manner.

I'm sure the top priority for most of us is fixes for the big things, the bugs that cause the huge fireball visable from outer space. We just want to be able to play without tearing our hair out. Reduction of daily stress is the reason why I want to play, so as you can imagine I don't want to do anything that adds to the stress level.  Wink

Hope you'll come by more often if you are able.  Grin

I want you all to be able to play w/o tearing your hair out as well--it sounds painful.  Is there a centralized list of bugs that cause the "huge fireball from outer space?"  Meaning crash bugs, jump bugs, things being deleted, etc.  Please, nothing "design" related, because we all have different opinions on how the game *should* work (and I can't fix those anyhow).
180  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife bugs on: 2005 September 13, 16:08:17
Okay well that's all good news pretty much. Any chance for a list of what was fixed either on Sims2.com or on the Nightlife CD?

I heard something about putting out a list, but that was a little while ago.  My suggestion is to keep constructively pressing for a list of fixes.  Anything in particular that you are worried about, besides everything? =)
181  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife bugs on: 2005 September 13, 15:57:11
With regards to fixing the Greek level 6 bug with Nightlife or for that matter fixing any University specific features, I doubt it will.

I believe the the Greek max level bug was fixed in Nightlife and should be fixed in the patch.

The reason I say this is Nightlife was created so that it only requires the main T2S game and can be installed with or without University. The only way they could fix something University specific that doesn't exist at all in the main game is to include that functionality, or at very least the basic code, with Nightlife. We know they aren't going to include all the University functionality and features because that would kill any remaining sales of University. It's possible they could include the code somehow and just not enable it, but as rushed as they seemed to be with these games and expansion packs, I somehow doubt they'd spend time on something like that.

C++ and behavioral scripting code that was added for University gets rolled forward to every expansion pack--that does not mean all features from University will be available though.  As you figured out, it is disabled (but we did spend time on it).

Supposedly they are now claiming, contrary to what they have said in the past, that there will be a patch for University. That along with user created fixes like J.M.'s and TwoJeff's are probably the best we can hope for. I also expect that the Greek Amnesia fix will be far from the only hack that doesn't work with Nightlife either.

Edit: I just saw MaxoidTom's reply in the other forum and apparently at least with the Greek Amnesia bug (which is different than the Greek level 6 pledge bug) they actually have modified the underlying code so that Nightlife will fix it. So it seems it's possible with other University bugs too but there's no official list and of those who currently have the game I haven't seen any reports of which existing bugs it does or does not fix so I guess we will just have to wait. Supposedly, some people in the US should start getting the game today.

Hopefully, in most cases, there will be no need for some of these hack/fixes with Nightlife or the patch.  In some cases, the Maxis fixes were in the same behavioral trees (as the mods) so having the hacks there would of course override anything Maxis patched/changed.
182  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife: Censor Blur won't die!!! on: 2005 September 13, 15:40:11
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AAWWW HatedMaxoid, it's probably not all your fault.

For example, there is no possible way you could have been responsible for the last ice age.

I'm sure someone here could find a way to disagree with you. =)
183  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife: Censor Blur won't die!!! on: 2005 September 13, 08:50:15

This is basically meaningless, and simply states that global override hacks will have to be checked and updated at every expansion pack. Trivial and obvious, really. Don't use hacks for versions of the game they weren't intended for. Duh.

Glad I could help.  Of course the context of the thread was that people were attempting to use a hack made for the base game or Uni in NL--just trying to point out the obvious, but what do I know?
184  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Nightlife: Censor Blur won't die!!! on: 2005 September 13, 08:49:03
Was that a jab at those of us who have been bitching nonstop on the forums about a Uni patch?  That's sweet, Tom... really sweet.

Actually, it is because we are blamed for practically everything.  Then again, it is probably all my fault.
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