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TS2: Burnination => Oops! You Broke It! => Topic started by: SilentDream on 2006 December 03, 23:30:22



Title: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: SilentDream on 2006 December 03, 23:30:22
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/callintheclowns/Bracky%20sims/sims009-1.png)

In that little blur or whatever you want to call it, there is infact a house I have played. As far as I can tell it's completely cosmetic and I don't have any problems or anything like that. It doesn't happen all the time but usually there's one random house that just decides it has to be fucked up like this. Just for clarification I have all the expansions and none of the stuff packs.

Does anyone know WHY it's doing this or what I can do to change it short of buying an actual video card? I have one of those piece of shit integrated ones... or so that's what my mom told me when she bought my computer. I couldn't tell you what it actually is unless someone wanted to tell me how to figure that out.

Also I'm sorry if this has already been addressed.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: dizzy on 2006 December 04, 00:13:08
Delete Groups.cache?


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: miros on 2006 December 04, 01:11:35
Go to My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Logs

There will be a 10K file there with an exact description of your 'puter.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: Sleepycat on 2006 December 04, 05:06:52
under start/programs/ea games/sims 2/last expansion - you will find "EAsy info" which will also tell you info about your computer.

(last expansion - just cause it seems best to use that version)


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: SilentDream on 2006 December 04, 20:11:09
According to easyinfo my display device is an Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family.

In other news, deleting the groups.cache didn't seem to do anything. But it isn't like this is new, I know I had it in OFB and I think in NL, but I got Uni and NL at the same time, so it's highly possible that this has been an issue the whole entire time I've had the game. This just happens to be the first time it's bugged me. I can't remember, but I think what I used to do was move the family out and delete the lot. I don't know if it makes any difference but as well as my memory serves me (which isn't saying much), it's only ever happened to lots I've played.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 December 05, 00:14:16
According to easyinfo my display device is an Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family.

There's your problem -- the Intel graphic chipsets aren't even supported by TS2.  Yea, you should probably get a better graphics card.  Assuming your system uses PCIe (most made in the last 3+ years do), you could get an ATI 850 series for around (and maybe by now under) $100. Just remember to go into the system BIOS at startup after you install the new card and turn off the on-board video.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: SilentDream on 2006 December 05, 01:12:01
That sucks.. thanks for your help. I was already told by the support people over at Dell that I needed a new video card but the reasoning I could live with and I guess I can live with this too it doesn't really seem to cause problems. Every now and again randomly my display driver just quits on me, so the game then shuts down and I have to restart. My computer (aw it had it's birthday recently) is like a week or two over a year old so it's not a problem to restart.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 December 05, 01:14:15
There's your problem -- the Intel graphic chipsets aren't even supported by TS2.  Yea, you should probably get a better graphics card.  Assuming your system uses PCIe (most made in the last 3+ years do), you could get an ATI 850 series for around (and maybe by now under) $100. Just remember to go into the system BIOS at startup after you install the new card and turn off the on-board video.
Messing with the BIOS is rarely necessary for this and not recommended: If your monitor lights up connected to your new video card, that's all you need. Disabling the onboard on your BIOS can potentially get you into a situation where neither video output will work, leaving your computer monitorless and forcing a full BIOS reset.

Note that lots of crappy boards, particularly brand-name computers, don't ship with ANY kind of video-extendability, so as to force you to buy a new computer and give them more money.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 December 05, 18:17:42
I agree in most cases, but he did say he has a Dell (which I also have), and they do recommend turning off the on-board video through the BIOS if you put in a video card.  Most higher-end Dells already come with a video card, though not a great one by default, so it's not an issue.  But some of their lower-end 'home' machines came with on-board video, and that will sometimes cause a conflict if you don't turn it off when you put a video card in.  Trust me, I speak from past experience. :)  I've made sure all the computers I've bought since then had video cards in them just to avoid that problem.



Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: SilentDream on 2006 December 05, 20:08:08
You're right jsalemi. When I talked to a computer tech (who had experience with Dell - don't even ask me why she bought me a Dell) at my mom's work, which is an IT department, he told me that I would in fact have to go into BIOS.

ps. I'm a she haha.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: dizzy on 2006 December 06, 00:54:35
Quoting from the readme.txt in Support:

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Supported video cards:

...

  Intel(R) Extreme Graphics (see note below)
    82845, 82865, 82915
 
NOTE: If you have a non-T&L capable video card, such as Intel Extreme Graphics or Radeon VE series, then you need at least a 2.0 GHz processor.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 December 06, 02:58:40
Yea, I missed that.  But it went up with Pets:

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Intel(R) Extreme Graphics (see note below)
    82865, 82915 and above
 
NOTE: If you have a non-T&L capable video card, such as Intel Extreme Graphics, then you need at least a 2.4 GHz processor. 


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: bubbs on 2006 December 06, 03:47:52
Open the house, change the color of the outsidel paint.  I had something like that and changing the paint corrected it. 


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: ThyGuy on 2006 December 10, 22:24:07
I got ripped off by DELL with this piece of crap computer I have right now. Useless PCI piece of garbage (and they made the new PCI-E version a WEEK after I bought this one). Do yourself a favor and by your comp, piece by piece and build one; like I'm going to do. Just be careful and it'll be well rewarding. I can't wait to have a computer that I know everything about, instead a piece of garbage that I have no clue about.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 December 11, 01:51:01
Never buy from Dell. Trepie was pondering buying from Dell this morning, and I went and dug up system specs piece-by-piece that were equivalent or superior and cost less. Dell = ripoff.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: syberspunk on 2006 December 11, 04:44:57
What sites do you recommend purchasing from? I will soon be in the market for a new a computer... and I suppose I will go the "build my own" route because it's cheaper and I can probably get better parts. Any recommendations?

So far, I only know of tiger direct and new egg. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. :)

Ste


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 December 11, 09:54:37
Go for a large-scale rummage from pricewatch, if you don't purchase wholesale like I do.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: ThyGuy on 2006 December 11, 14:05:38
Go for something that is just slightly outdated. Everything from Q2 of this year is lower priced now. By next year; they price will be a little lower than before. Just remember the rule; in computer age; if it's been out for six months; it's now obsolete to the high tech people, and the prices drops like a old woman with a broken hip.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: neriana on 2006 December 11, 14:54:24
What sites do you recommend purchasing from? I will soon be in the market for a new a computer... and I suppose I will go the "build my own" route because it's cheaper and I can probably get better parts. Any recommendations?

Your friendly local PC dealer, not a chain, and not online. Every town has a couple random guys with their own PC businesses. I got my very shiney new computer from one such guy. It cost about $2000, and blows away a $7000 Dell. I checked online, and nowhere has a computer this good for this price.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: Skarlath on 2006 December 28, 01:59:51
The same thing happens to me randomly.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y103/Strawberry_flavurd/WeirdnessHouse3.jpg)

Operating System - Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
System Memory -  512.5
Processor Speed - 2127.8
Display Device - NVIDIA GeForce 6200 
Display Memory - 512.0
Processor - AMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ 2127.8 Mhz

Any idea what it can be? It hasn't happened for a while, but it'd be nice to know if it's my graphics card.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 December 28, 02:01:33
Your friendly local PC dealer, not a chain, and not online. Every town has a couple random guys with their own PC businesses. I got my very shiney new computer from one such guy. It cost about $2000, and blows away a $7000 Dell. I checked online, and nowhere has a computer this good for this price.
Hell no, order online, it's cheaper by far. You paid *$2000* for a computer? You were ROBBED. Even loaded with the best shinies on the market, I cannot make a computer cost that much.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: miros on 2006 December 28, 09:04:06
The same thing happens to me randomly.
<snip>
Any idea what it can be? It hasn't happened for a while, but it'd be nice to know if it's my graphics card.

My game does something like that when I've got too much stuff in the Downloads folder.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: Baskar on 2006 December 28, 12:19:31
Rather than create a new topic, thought I'd just come here.  Currently using a VIA/S3G Unichrome Vid Card.  I'm currently hoping that this supposed patch that EA is to release next month will fix it, but if not......

Currently dealing with the red flashing walls.  Quite annoying, believe you me.  Now,  my mother (next door) is offering me her computer - which she doesn't use....  anywho, just wondering if an nVidia Geforce 6150LE vid card is able to support the game well enough.  I don't need to worry about memory or the other computer specifications, I'm just worried about the card.    Any insight would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 December 28, 12:54:41
The card should be able to run the game, perhaps badly. What you have now is not a graphics card. I mean, what the hell? "Unichrome"? That sounds like a synonym for "monochrome", as "uni-" and "mono-" are the same thing. Does it even have color?


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: SaraMK on 2006 December 28, 14:41:02
The card should be able to run the game, perhaps badly. What you have now is not a graphics card. I mean, what the hell? "Unichrome"? That sounds like a synonym for "monochrome", as "uni-" and "mono-" are the same thing. Does it even have color?

I think that's a standardintegrated piece of crap that Compaq used to put in every computer. My old one had it. It played the base game and Uni fine, but stopped working after NL. I had a better computer by then, of course. I still use it for testing stuff though.


Title: Re: Is this trying to tell me I have a bad graphics card?
Post by: Baskar on 2006 December 28, 18:28:39
First off, yes it has color.  It's even been able to run both Sims 2 and Univ.  Quite well actually.  Just that with Pets...well, that was the kicker. 

Running WinS3ID -
GPU ID:  1106 7205
Chip Name:  UniChrome IGP (KM400, KN400)
Supported:  AGP v2.0, 1X/2X/4X speeds, AGPsideband, 66 MHz PCI
Enabled:  4X speeds, AGPsideband, Bus master

Don't think you'd be interested in the Instance or REG ID. 

DX Diag Stuff - Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
       System Model: PL308AA-ABA A735W
               BIOS: Rev. 3.11
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.1GHz
             Memory: 448MB RAM
          Page File: 267MB used, 965MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

Display devices:

 Card name: VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP
     Manufacturer: VIA/S3G
        Chip type: VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP
         DAC type: Internal
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_7205&SUBSYS_81181043&REV_01
   Display Memory: 64.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: vtdisp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.0212 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 3/8/2005 10:50:06, 3453824 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: vtmini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 3/8/2005 10:50:16, 172544 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71FE6-3145-11CF-2773-12A1A0C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1106
        Device ID: 0x7205
        SubSys ID: 0x81181043
      Revision ID: 0x0001
      Revision ID: 0x0001
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
 Deinterlace Caps: n/a
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

That should be all you need.


As for the system, it's a VT8237R Southbridge. 

Anywho, back to the question at hand...Is the 6150LE good enough?