I found out how to fix the problem. You have to go into msconfig and click hide windows files, then disable all in both sections. Restart the computer then try to apply the patch. Apparently ,one of the start up programs was blocking the application.

I just installed a retail version after uninstalling a non-retail one and now when I try to patch it spits that out at me. I have no idea what happened as I had taken all of the cc out when I uninstalled and haven't put it back in yet. I also ran the game once to generate the document files but still nothing. I even tried the manual uninstall but when I got to the part about going into tools in program files to see the hidden files, I couldn't find that at all. I'm on Vista if it makes any difference and I admit my knowledge about computers is intermediate.

If this particular problem has been dealt with, please direct me to that thread as I haven't seen this specific occurrence in my searching.

My wish is that negative moodlets did a lot more. My sim had her husband die one day and she got the -50 broken-hearted moodlet. The next day her sister dies and she got the witnessing death -50 one. Besides the +30 she has for beautiful vista, she's an elder and I think it'd be better if she died from a heart attack or stress or something at this point. So her mood is depressed, so what? She cries sometimes but it doesn't interfere with anything she has to do.

I think as an elder maybe these depressed states should affect happiness or have some added affect. I have sims whose moods are very low from witnessing a death but their fun meter is full? It makes no sense.

I'm not even going to mention how sims have a blast from attending a party where someone dies.

Apparently its actually taking it out. Its creepy the way the baby's face is distorted, she looks like she was going to eat him.

I actually saw the creepiest baby bug on the sims 3 official site

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Those are the links to the images

My current legacy heir rolled the loner trait. The most effect its had is that she's gotten a +15 or s boost when alone and a -15 or so when she's in a crowd. I plan for her to have maybe 6 or more children since her LTW can be fulfilled when she's old, so it'll be interesting to see how it works out.

I agree my sim teen has this LTW and she's only at fishing level 4 but with the outstanding fruit in the family garden she's already catching outstanding fish. Point being, just have a perfect garden and this can be completed before young adulthood.

I have some questions on a part of the rules that isn't clearly defined. I didn't notice it until my current generation where I have the heir's brother living in the house and his wife just gave birth.

1. Would the offspring of spares count for points?
2. Would the mate of a spare count for points as the rule says mates count as soon as they bring in the next generation? (This is generation 4 it just isn't from the heir).

I've seen differing views so I'm just asking for clarity.

You're talking about her chin but I find her nose most offensive. Her school life must be horrible.

My third generation have now reached teenagers and my second generation heir has finally fulfilled her lifetime wish. Her husband's lifetime wish is golddigger so I was planning to kill her to fulfill his wish and then banish him from the household, but she won't die. I had her tinker with the TV at low handiness skill; once it just increased her skill and the second time it caught on fire. She won't die by fire because she keeps putting it out as she has the brave trait.

The dishwasher broke and I had her fix it but it only increased the skill and now she's at level 5. I don't want to drown her because it'll take too long and I'd rather it be more accidental. Should I just keep getting a technophobe to break things until she croaks? He's already an elder and I don't have much time until he dies.

I agree about the ugly offspring. My legacy sim married a NPC social worker and come of the children inherited his horrific seemingly broken nose. I ruled them all out as heir.

I would like to know how you got identical looking children because none of my sim offspring look identical, not even twins or triplets. They have similar features obviously coming from the same parents but none of them look anywhere near identical.

In this new save for the legacy challenge I'm not finding a problem with age appropriateness but maybe because when in doubt they marry an NPC like the policeman or social worker. It works better that way for me because since they aren't playables, they have no previous baggage. I also find that the game will age people to suit any age group that is lacking in members even if the aging makes no sense whatsoever.

I've noticed something strange. Holly Alto was a teenager when this game started and Vita was an adult and my founder and her spouse were young adults in the early stage. My founder is now an elder, her spouse is dead, Vita is still an elder alive and kicking and Holly is also an elder. It just doesn't seem right.

My laptop is running the 965 chipset with the x3100 processor and I've never had that problem or any other graphical ones, and I haven't updated drivers either. It could be the problem but I haven't seen it.

What I am having is a problem with a disappearing roof. I could see it all the time but then all of a sudden it decided to not show anymore. Others are saying its a graphics card problem but I'm not convinced, so if you have that problem please let me know and then I'll know for sure.

The only problem with that is that it would add money to the household defeating the purpose of a legacy challenge. I sorted it out by moving him and the wife out by edit town and placing them in their own house and he reappeared there. I never got to give them jobs or anything so they'll probably get destroyed by the story progression but whatever, he annoyed me so much I'd kill him myself.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

I tried resetsim and he hasn't shown up anywhere. He's not on the map as one of her friends, she can't call or invite him over. In edit town it still shows him as one of the family members.

I would hate to have to move them out and then back in to see if he reappears. I could go back to my previous save cause its only been a sim half day but that's annoying. He's like those kidnapped babies just he kidnapped himself.

I remember reading about someone's playable returning to their old home to put up a book in the bookshelf but this takes the cake.

I just got one of my spares for the legacy challenge married, and because he was a policeman, he had to be moved into their home before I could move them out. Everything with the wedding went fine, they got married and he moved in with his thumbnail being added to the household, making it 8 persons living there. It even said he brought funds to the household. All of a sudden the go home icon for him appears, which I thought was weird but allowed it cause I wanted to see what would happen.

I followed the stupid, clearly confused man all the way to an empty lot by the beach where he proceeded to disappear and his thumbnail was removed from the household. I checked and he's still in her relationship panel as her husband but I thought the game forced all married couples to live together. I paused it but I'm going to go back to see if I can get him to move in another way.

I guess she's a victim of her husband going for smokes and never returning.

My founder and her husband had 5 children, a set of twins and triplets thanks to his wish to be surrounded by family. While the triplets were still toddlers, and he and my founder were barely sleeping in shifts with less than $1000 in the bank, he rolls a want for 10 children. He must have a hidden insane trait. He also has a tendency for hideous offspring. When the twins aged to teens I had to immediately rule out my initial pick as heiress as she looked too much like a bobble-head doll, every time she ran I was afraid she would topple over. The next one I had to give her a hairstyle to cover her face, she's actually very pretty but she has her dad's nose which makes me want to scream in fright.

I'm waiting till the triplets age up to finally choose an heiress (founder had all girls). At the moment they live in a 3 room house. The bathroom was built after several embarrassing moments and moodlets (with loss of relationship points) from the open bathroom and I had to add on a separate room after the triplets were born so they wouldn't keep waking everyone up.

Two questions: 1. Are identical twins possible? I doubt it, seeing that they don't tell you that you have two babies on the way,only a recurring naming box indicates this occurrence, but I wanted to be sure.
2. Has anyone else noticed that a crying or singing baby will awaken anyone aged child or older in the same room but other babies right next to them continue sleeping sometimes? It doesn't make sense. Sometimes the babies will get a rude awakening moodlet but other times they sleep like nothing has happened.

I was wondering a similar thing in terms of using the gym to shower. With my 1300 simoleans left, all I could buy was a bed, a chair, a toilet, a wall to place said toilet and a fridge. So I had my founder bathing at the gym, hope I don't have to start over because of that.

I've started a matriarchy and had my sim marry a guy who turned out to be the social worker. Only three traits unfortunately but he has the neat trait which I found to be more obsessive than the neurotic trait (nothing I do gets him to leave the bed alone). I think my legacy is going to be a little hard in generation one since she wants to be leader of the free world and he wants to raise 5 kids, luckily both have the family-oriented trait. So far just had a twin, I expect many a sleepless night in their shoe box house.

Yes they were definitely at home when I hovered over their icon but it said no interaction and I even zoomed on their house and saw them inside but it still said no interaction. Usually if no one is home I can still click on it but it'll just tell me that whoever isn't at home.

I believe it works for siblings because I had two brothers become bff before and for sure I have two cousins who currently are. Its annoying though they keep rolling wishes for it after they already have one like bff hogs.

I'm not sure if it will work that way. I think you'd have to ask to be just friends which takes away the romantic interest status. Usually when I see that I just reject that wish as I think its ridiculous to be going backward in relationship status and wonder why the game doesn't recognize that. I usually only see it in teens and if you ask someone else after to be bff then you get some pop-up about betrayal or something which I guess means  you can only have one.

I'm having a problem with a few of my lots in the game that seem to be bugged. I had a family in one and whenever I clicked to visit it said there was no interaction. I couldn't figure out why so I moved them out and then moved them back in but the same issue. I moved them to a different house and was done with it and that family is alright now.

Its now started with another family though, the Bachelors. I can't visit them either. I moved them out, copied the house, because I wanted them to keep it for nostalgia and then bulldozed it. I then placed  the copy and moved them back in and it was fine but after 1 sim day its started again. I have no problem moving them to a different lot but its  annoying if that's going to keep happening to my lots.

When your relationship is at its maximum with whoever you get an option in the friendly tree to ask to be bff. If the person accepts then the wish is fulfilled.

Apparently other children in the household can copy the old homework when you take it out of the inventory and place it on a table or the ground.

I actually just noticed a problem with the way babies age in families you are not playing. I'm on my second generation, where I moved out  five of the children of my founders into their own homes when  they aged to young adult. At the time of moving out the last four, my heir had one child and a toddler who had been a toddler for about four sim days. I decided to create them CAS spouses after accidentally marrying off the first two and a day later the townie spouses became elders causing a very quick annulment. I spent about 2 sim days making all four of them get acquainted with their spouses, married, employed and impregnated then moved back to my main family. All was fine and well with the births when lo and behold 2 days later the babies are all toddlers which is fine but then 1 day later 1 of the  toddlers was a child when my toddler was still a toddler and I am playing on the long life span. Very Annoying.

I also noticed something else interesting. When I left my main family for those two days I had sent the child to practice writing skill on the computer. On returning after 2 days he was very tired but still practicing writing and was at skill level 7, the same as his mother who wants to be a writer. He also had the go to park icon in his queue from when I had invited him to his Aunt's wedding. I was wondering why he didn't show up but now I know.