More Awesome Than You!

When I started my game over, shortly after getting NL, I decided, on the advice of some people here, not to nuke all the downtownies.  I have not regretted that decision, since it's true that they are a better looking bunch than most.  However, I was annoyed by the fact that the downtownies would not come to the 'burbs (that's a bit snooby no?). I got REALLY annoyed when I realized they wouldn't shop in my hood either.  I didn't really want to move my 'hood downtown.

So since the mountain wouldn't come to mohamed, mohamed went to the mountain.  Using Inge's indispesable bush, I teleported in all the downtownies (the Garth family I think), moved them in briefly and then made them townies. So now I have lots more customers for my shops.

I think the only sims left downtown are the Tricou's and the vampires.  That suits me fine....leave downtown to the vampires and the dead.

I was wondering however.  What happens if you delete a downtown.  I'm pretty sure the characters aren't deleted.  So they point to something that no longer exists.   Do they simply become inactive? Do they wander the 'hoods?

I haven't tried deleting a downtown. I do wish someone would make a hack that lets downtownies shop in other towns. I live in a big city downtown and while I might not go casually strolling down the street in the burbs I would shop there.

Because of this I generally try to keep my shops downtown. I bought the 50s diner there and supplement the food with paintings and have done pretty well with this. I ended up moving my sims downtown too though otherwise there's extra loading time for the downtown neighborhood to load first before the business lot loads if they are coming from another neighborhood.

For me, I use Inge's bush a long time ago and revamped all the monkeys and donkeys townies. Everyone looks decent now.
It only takes a few hours and if you aren't fussy, 1-2 hours suffices.

I don't really want to turn all my downtownies into townies, but I do wish they would shop in the business district, it makes no sense that they don't.  The first time I bought something downtown (the sculpture park) I had a vamp visit, plus Mrs CrumpleBottom was wandering around.  I want to open a funeral parlour, which is perfect for vampires to visit, but I don't want to put it Downtown, so they won't.  A mod to sort this out would be very welcome.

Downtown won't come uptown?

That's odd, I've seen them walking around base neighborhoods before. Or maybe I was hallucinating.

I've seen playables that live downtown walking around the suburbs and coming in to shops (before I put in the no playable shoppers hack), but not actual downtownies.

Interesting how they've segregated the neighborhoods like that. I presume it's that way because they they can't expect everyone to have the same combination of explanation packs, then again, I'm sure the extra code would be trivial to add over at EA/Maxis that would allow global townie traversal (eg. if the user has this EP, then do this, if not, do this instead).

Not a big deal really, there's enough townie clutter as it is and you could always place another business downtown if you really wanted to.

To me it seems almost like a bug in the way it's carried through.

It does seem almost normal that Downtownies wouldn't be walking down the sidewalks in the main neighborhood.  In fact, it seems a little bizarre when I've played a family that lives on a Downtown lot and regular Townies come walking by.

What is really flawed, though, is if your sim lives in the main neighborhood and is friends with Downtownies and throw parties, those Downtownies won't come to their parties.  They also won't go to parties thrown on University lots, although they will visit when invited.

I had one sim last night in college and he threw a party and invited two of his sisters and his girlfriend which is a Downtownie (they're in love--so relationship isn't the problem).  I got the message about missing some of your party guests.  Low and behold, both his sisters, who live on a Downtown lot (well, it doesn't LOOK like any Downtown I've ever seen ;)) came with no problem, but Belle was a no-show.