How to get rid of SecuRom, NOW
jmtmom:
Got rid of the "DO NOT DELETE" with your advice muridae. ;D I'll keep trying on the other one.
Zazazu:
Quote from: angelyne on 2007 October 16, 18:58:35
Quote from: jolrei on 2007 October 16, 17:33:55
Quote from: angelyne on 2007 October 16, 17:06:49
It is malware, but the difference between Securom and the stuff in the wild is that it's malware used by legitimate companies. So they have to show some restraint, unless they want to be the target of multiple lawsuits.
My understanding is that Sony has already been the target of at least one lawsuit related to SecuROM, precisely because of the malware characteristics of this sort of copy protection. Your argument PHAILS!
tut tut. My argument did not PHAILS. Since I said that if they don't show restraint they will be the target of lawsuits and they were. And that Sony fiasco was far from showing restraint. That was a train wreck of gigantic proportions. They deserve all the lawsuits they are getting.
Your statement was correct Angelyne. However, they, as the company that got in bed with SecuROM, phail if they try to use this as a justification.
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However, unless there is another incident that I am not aware of, at that point they were installing a rootkit on people's computer. That all of itself was pretty damn rotten to begin with. But to make matter worse, their rootkit worked by hiding any process, file or registry key that started with $sys$, IIRC. Holy security vulnerability Batman. I would think, hope, expect, that after being sued, lambasted, publicly humiliated, drawn and quartered (maybe not that yet), they have learned SOME lesson. <...truncated...> I've seen lots of people wonder if it's a rootkit. I've seen many other say no, it's not. ( I don't think so either....that XCP WAS a rootkit, no doubts about it).
SecuROM does hide its files. Not only by making them garden-variety hidden, but by making the file names malformed so that they cannot be removed without additional utilities. Now as for the rest of the rootkit definitition bits, I'm not sure. At best, it's a gray area.
lordrichter:
Quote from: dragonfyr on 2007 October 16, 21:19:47
Yes, it can provide a backdoor for others to have access to my computer systems. Herein lies the meat of my question. If I can manage to totally lock down all incoming and outgoing communications for the game executable, the launcher and the uaservice files, does this effectively muzzle securom?
What I am hoping to do is to just stop it from communicating.
My investigation shows that during normal operation, SecuROM is not making a habit of communicating outside of the PC after installed by Sim 2 BV gold or patch 1. I do not know about the stuff pack because I don't own it, nor am I testing other SecuROM installations that may have come from other games. I have recorded no instances of communications by SecuROM after installation. I have not checked DURING installation yet.
The Sims 2 program at BV level does not need to communicate with the outside world. Mine does not from the start of the game to the neighborhood menu. I do not use the launcher, I start the Sims directly.
I do not have McAfee, but my experiments with Symantec Anti Virus 9 shows that it SecuROM is not messing with it and it is working and updating fine.
SecuROM does not disable my firewall sofware, either.
I should note that SecuROM is not causing any problems on my sandbox system, as of yet. The DVD and CD writers both are working normally. The only symptom I have is that Process Explorer is detected by SecuROM, but that is easily countered.
morriganrant:
My logs were showing many attempts by Sims2ep6.exe to access the net at start up and during play. I firewalled it and my vanilla, BV game, lag stopped. Eh, I have no idea why it's connecting for some but not for others but it was defiantly showing activity on my machine. I had Norton firewall at the time, I've since ditched it and I am now using windows firewall. Norton seemed to have no problem with letting it through and my free subscription expired a while back so I was in the market for a new one anyway.
jmtmom:
Quote from: lordrichter on 2007 October 16, 22:07:38
I do not have McAfee, but my experiments with Symantec Anti Virus 9 shows that it SecuROM is not messing with it and it is working and updating fine.
SecuROM does not disable my firewall sofware, either.
Well my Paid Norton is not working at all. I believe it's SecuRom but I haven't been able to completely get it off my system, that's the only thing that will tell me for sure. I've uninstalled and reinstalled Norton multiple times and followed the instructions they gave me to no avail.
I'm tearing my hair out trying to follow the SecuRom removal instructions posted here. I may give up and reformat, it would be easier and I don't have much to lose on this computer.
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