How to get rid of SecuRom, NOW
JCSpencer:
It sounds like Maxis (EA, whatever) is screwing this up more and more. If this were a restaurant, we'd get free (better) replacements, an apology and a coupon. Personally, I love OFB and I love UNI (although I seem to be in the minority on the latter), but from everything I read, I think I may just stop here while I'm still happy with the game overall (for the most part).
I definitely echo your sentiments regarding things being installed without consent or at least being made aware, and certainly being restricted from ultimate control of your PC is enough to make me throw mice and fruitsnacks. But I guess in my old age, and pessimistic view of life, I've come to realize that most companies don't really give a damn about courtesy anymore. Although I am still puzzled as to why they think we'll never notice. We always do.
Honestly, I'm trying to avoid dealing with all this other nonsense if I can, which was the main reason I was hoping to learn as much as I could about the threats that SecuRom might have posed (if any). If running from the disc doesn't turn my comp into a BFBVFS, I'm happy. But if I have to start downloading cracks and special tools just to play a game I paid US$50 for, plus hundreds of extra dollars for all the EPs and SPs, just because it was virtually unplayable from the box or risked my computer, then EA can go to hell. I've got a lot of other fun games from less devious companies with which I can divert my attention if one of them becomes more hassle than fun.
Ambular:
Quote from: JCSpencer on 2007 October 13, 19:26:50
Honestly, I'm trying to avoid dealing with all this other nonsense if I can, which was the main reason I was hoping to learn as much as I could about the threats that SecuRom might have posed (if any). If running from the disc doesn't turn my comp into a BFBVFS, I'm happy. But if I have to start downloading cracks and special tools just to play a game I paid US$50 for, plus hundreds of extra dollars for all the EPs and SPs, just because it was virtually unplayable from the box or risked my computer, then EA can go to hell. I've got a lot of other fun games from less devious companies with which I can divert my attention if one of them becomes more hassle than fun.
At this point I think whether or not I continue to pick up the EP's is going to depend on what the new EP's contain and how much of an issue it will be to upgrade. I can live with having to keep downloading cracks and stripping out the SecuROM with each EP and/or patch, if necessary. But if, as Deviancy predicts, new cracks are not forthcoming...well, there's tons of custom content and mods out there to keep my game fresh, and the more difficult and annoying EA makes it for us to keep adding expansions, the more motivated creators will be to learn to come up with fun new stuff themselves. Or at least I hope so.
JCSpencer:
Quote from: AmberDiceless on 2007 October 13, 19:47:13
...well, there's tons of custom content and mods out there to keep my game fresh, and the more difficult and annoying EA makes it for us to keep adding expansions, the more motivated creators will be to learn to come up with fun new stuff themselves. Or at least I hope so.
Honestly, that's why I have yet to buy any of the stuff packs. I can't envision paying US$20 for a handful of new items, most of which I don't even care about, when I can pick and choose exactly what I want, for free, and frequently at much higher levels of quality from websites like this. Which brings up something else - the only reason MATY is even around is because JM is doing for free what Maxis should have paid its people to do the first time around. As much as I appreciate JM and the MATY crew, this shouldn't be necessary. I swear, I really think some of these companies are releasing games in the states that they are because they know somebody in their respective communities is going to fix it for them and it won't cost them a dime (actually we are *paying* for their borked crap and then fixing it for free; what's the definition of a sucker?). "Yeah, it's done enough, ship it out and let them fix it. Start the next EP!" I've never seen this in any other industry, at least not to this degree. What if Ford BMW made their cars half-ass and required customers to fix it at their own time and expense? Or what if you got an oil change, but they secretly slipped something else in there without permission or notification that could screw up other parts of the car? There'd be hell to pay. And we're not talking about simple fixes here, at least not for the layman. How many Sims players do you really think can grasp this SecuRom tutorial. I'm not trying to insult here, but a high computer literacy isn't required for most games - and it shouldn't be. Apparently EA doesn't agree with me.
Okay, I better stop. I just totally derailed this thread. Feel free to move my posts to a relevant whiny section if you like. Or burninate them. Or rip off my lips. Or both.
EDIT: Good God, this is beyond disgraceful. I hope I didn't belittle anyone and their problems with any of the previous statements. I just spent a while reading the BBS with Maxoid Sam (where I notice some MATY members have posted); I had no idea the problems were so extensive. But what I find odd is why this information isnt being better spread to the internet. This needs to get out there (even if only to boycott EA). My mind is made up - screw giving them any more of my hard earned money. I hope JM makes a real world burninator so we can turn EAxis into a BFFBVFFS (extra Fs added for dramatic effect and censored cussing).
EDIT #2: I just found this online. Sounds a little too easy, but it also makes sense logically. Posting it here to see what any of you might think.
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The easiest way to remove it without using additional software, is to go and delete it from the \windows\system32\ folder (I think the filename is UAService7.exe).
Then make a text file with the same name, in the same directory, and then right click the file, and make it "Hidden" and "Read Only". Then go into Control Panel/Admin/Services and disable/stop the SecuROM service. It will never load OR install ever again, and you are forever ridden of SecuROM but can still play all SecuROM games.
jsalemi:
As someone noted here or in one of the other BV threads, the Slashdot web site has noticed the uproar, and they're one of the big gamer news sites. So the word is getting out there beyond the Sims community.
JCSpencer:
Yeah, I discovered if I try a bunch of different keyword strings, I can bring up a better selection of specific articles, but you have to know what the keywords are before you can really search. Kinda hard if you don't know anything about it initially. LOL.
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