How to get rid of SecuRom, NOW
Quinctia:
You don't have to be that old to remember IIe's and Commodores. I'm 24 and used those the first few years of grade school. I could do very basic programming in BASIC (har har). I remember being amazed at the IIgs's in the lab...with a MOUSE and COLOR. My mom, however, brought home the largest floppy disk I have ever seen the other day. It was bigger than my head and stored an amount that seems ridiculously small now. It was from some programming/accounting class she took somewhere around the time when I was born, I think.
I wouldn't worry too hard about NoCD.exe's and patches, either. Recently, I installed Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, and the NoCD explicitly said to download the patch(es) first, and I'm about to switch out my Knights of the Old Republic for a NoCD, and I believe that one's a post-patch as well. (I hate hearing CDs whiz around in the drive when there's no need.)
You might have to wait a little bit to benefit from the patch, but it's not like the scene doesn't make new .exe's. It may be that it's not a general practice for Sims games, but it doesn't seem like a problem elsewhere, so I doubt it will be, especially now that there's added incentive to use a NoCD.
JCSpencer:
This is the only thread that search returns for "SecuROM," so I'll ask here. What the hell is it, or rather why is it so evil?
I was posting a list of problems on Insim in the General Help area, and I got the response that because I have Deluxe (Base+NL), I have the evil SecuROM and that is the likely culprit. I really don't understand how copy protection software can cause the errors I was experiencing, but because I have no knowledge about this particular program, I obviously can't be 100% certain of that fact.
sluggo:
Quote from: JCSpencer on 2007 October 13, 03:28:07
This is the only thread that search returns for "SecuROM," so I'll ask here. What the hell is it, or rather why is it so evil?
I was posting a list of problems on Insim in the General Help area, and I got the response that because I have Deluxe (Base+NL), I have the evil SecuROM and that is the likely culprit. I really don't understand how copy protection software can cause the errors I was experiencing, but because I have no knowledge about this particular program, I obviously can't be 100% certain of that fact.
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Oooh.. Do I get to make a LURK MOAR POST?
Had you actually read through, You'd have seen it's mentioned a few hundred times what it is, where to find more information on it, yadda. yadda, yadda. Scroll up just a few posts, and read. I know it's hard, and it makes the brain hurt, but it may help with your problem
<edit>: oops.. quoted the wrong post
morriganrant:
I installed with a torrented copy even though I legally bought the game. I nearly always do if only so i can leave by cd in the box and I only need open the box for the cd key. Anyway, It did still install some Securom files onto my computer, just apparently not all. My actual SecuRom file was empty, but I still found one file in my Windows 32 folder and the keys in my registry. They wouldn't have even been there but I installed the game the day it came out and I had not been able to locate a no-cd crack.
But anyway Deviancy, about the kitten killer, have you never heard the saying, "Every time you masturbate, God kills a kitten"? That is pretty much what the kitten killer phrase is a spin off of, unless I am sadly mistaken on this. Anyway, the others have told you the rest, it changes so much code that it wrecks hell on other peoples mods and hacks. I happen to like it, not that I use it's features all that often, I just like the option that I could if I wanted to. Anyone posting an error log on this site that then turns out that the problem is that hack then they are not given help and their help thread is locked. We do not support it here, and if someone is silly enough to have not removed such an involved hack and then testing before asking for help then they can do it the hard way with the fifty fifty method, actually, they should have used that method already before asking for help. You have said it, there are no kid gloves here. Don't use the Retardo land area as a judge, seems like most here are 20's-40s or more, those primarily in Retardo land ...well it's a little hard to tell, sometimes kids get lost.
JCSpencer:
Quote from: sluggo on 2007 October 13, 05:15:40
Oooh.. Do I get to make a LURK MOAR POST?
Had you actually read through, You'd have seen it's mentioned a few hundred times what it is, where to find more information on it, yadda. yadda, yadda. Scroll up just a few posts, and read. I know it's hard, and it makes the brain hurt, but it may help with your problem
<edit>: oops.. quoted the wrong post
Had you actually read through, you'd have seen it's not mentioned "a few hundred times," smartass - in fact, it's hardly mentioned at all. The best I can gather - which is the same [useless] information I gathered from searching other websites, googling it, etc. (so thanks again for another ASSumption) - is that it can cause some problems with some CD burners and virus protection software. Well, in my book, "cause some problems" isn't exactly an answer, and isn't very threatening. In fact, if I go solely off of what I've researched, it's really not that big of deal, and I tend to agree with Deviancy (hmm, how could I do that if I hadn't actually read through?). Then again, the *real* problem with it seems to simply be a matter of installing 3rd party software without consent; that receives more press than any actual problems that may occur/exist. Yeah, sure, it pisses me off to learn that this was passed on to us without our awareness or consent, but this is hardly the first piece of software to do that, nor will it be the last. Game companies - most companies in general these days - couldn't give two squats what we think. They do whatever they want to do that they feel is in their best interest, or just because they felt like doing it regardless of interest. Who knows, maybe it's a conspiracy and they are in cahoots with Sony so that we at least have to buy Sony burners if we want to keep burning stuff (since Sony can't seem to make a computer worth buying). [I figure I better mention that I'm being sarcastic here.]
As for "where to find more information on it" - I didn't ask where I can find out more about the NOCD hacks, which *are* locations mentioned in the posts. I wanted to know why SecuROM is supposedly so bad that I need to remove it. Again I agree with Deviancy - with the information I've been presented, I don't think it's really that big of a deal, but threads like could unnecessarily panic someone, or encourage people - especially newbs - to: 1) do something they may not need to do; 2) do something they have no idea how to do properly; and/or 3) do something they don't fully understand the consequences of. That is, of course, unless they actually try to learn something more about the problem, like I was attempting to do. Do you do all of your college research and then never ask you professor any questions, assuming everything you read is both correct and consummate? Simply because someone researches everything they can doesn't mean they've found all the answers they need.
As for my reading skills - for your information, although I could really care less if you know or not, I've spent about 30 hours of the last two days reading hundreds of threads on this site looking for mods, suggestions, fixes, et cetera. I never post a question unless I am absolutely 100% certain it either: 1) wasn't already answered; or 2) wasn't answered thoroughly enough for me, or at least didn't actually answer my specific question. To do otherwise is a major pet peeve of mine, as there is no excuse to post a question just because it wasn't answered on the first page of a multi-page thread. I hate that, and don't particularly care for anyone insinuating that I've done such a thing. Of course another pet peeve pertains to people that take the time to post, but only post derogatory comments, instead of using those few minutes to be helpful. Thumper's mother had some good advice along these lines, I believe. It should be a staple of Internet etiquette.
Hypocrites are my third pet peeve. So thanks for playing, try again soon. You'd better pick a different target next time if you actually want to score.
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