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windy_moon:
Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 October 15, 05:28:16

Yes, the whole gaming thing revolves around males of about 15 - as if they are the only people out therre who use computers!  Sexist/Ageist or what?


*nods*

My day job is strategic marketing, so I tend to look at anything from that perspective. I've read up, just a bit, on the gaming industry and the female and/or non 15 year old male markets...The Sims revealed huge markets for gaming that was previously thought non-existent..but after all of these years, they still don't know what to do with it...lack of ideas.  Not necessarily lack of will (there's money in them thar hills!), but lack of ideas.

If you could get a mind like Spielberg or Lucas (or their next generation counterparts) engaged in gaming, the world could explode open.  They never let technological limits get in the way of their storytelling...when they didn't have the technology, they hired smart people to invent it on the fly, hence Industrial Light & Magic.

Now that I think about it, I'm surprised Lucas hasn't made a game already, since the gaming industry is practically white canvas for him to paint. 

ZephyrZodiac:
Also, what about really good games for kids - at present most games, being geared for teenage boys, are just not suitable for a seven-year-old!  Wouldn't you think disney would really start to open up this market?

noname:
Quote from: syberspunk on 2005 October 14, 23:00:16

Quote from: CharlenieHead on 2005 October 14, 21:27:06

Oh, but his last few movies were kinda bad . . .


Are you kidding? Well I haven't seen Saving Private Ryan, but supposabley that was good.

Now, admittedly, upon first viewing, A.I. and Minority Report were let downs for me in the theatre, just because they were very long, and it felt like they each could have had 3 different endings. BUT! I definately feel that these movies are the kind that require repeated viewings. I definately gained a greater appreciation for both of those films, after watching them a couple more times at home.

And his last three films were fantastically entertaining: Catch Me If You Can and The Terminal were a bit more whimsical, but they were still both great films. And War of the Worlds? I thought the remake was excellent! The film itself was visually stunning and the acting was pretty top-notch, even if it had a buncha crazies in it (Tom AND Tim, what's up with that?!?! Freaks. :P). Nevertheless, I thought it was all done very well, the characters were nicely developed, and it was cool to bring the focus of the story onto a family, with the original story as a backdrop for all the tension. And I may not necessarily be a huge Dakota Fanning er... well... fan :P but I think she was really good in this film. I definately think she's a rising star with potential chops comparable to Jodie Foster, Drew Barrymore, and Haley Joel Osment. I've read that people have complained and bitched about her just being a screamer, but I thought she was very convincing and compelling in WotW, which was just, to me, your basic, classic Sci-fi at its best. And personally, I can't wait to see how Munich will turn out. That just seems like it'll be an interesting project. Not to mention, what will hopefully be classic Spielberg in the upcoming Indiana film.  :D


Ste


Well, I was going mostly by what I'd heard, because I hadn't seen most of the movies. I did see WotW (at the NYC premeire, in fact!) and although I liked the special effects, I hated Spielberg's whole "lets add some family values into it" deal. I also felt it had a weak ending.

Renatus:
I could recommend a whole big pile of games, but I don't know if I have 'odd' tastes for a female gamer or not. That doesn't mean you aren't completely right, Zephyr and Windy - the game industry still has it's collective head stuck in it's ass the 80's when it comes to a lot of game design, and I still get surprised reactions from some guys when I tell them I play video games, and no, I'm not talking about solitaire. Makes me wonder what rock they've been living under - I know so many people who play games now I'm surprised when I meet one who doesn't.

At any rate, they need to start taking advice given to authors and apply it to the games they make - don't bloody focus on the gender of the player, design it for people, and put characters who are people in it. Make it fun for, you guessed it, people. Gender is by and large irrelevant if one focuses on making something awesome that people will like (although a little good sense in costume design never hurt anyone).

ZephyrZodiac:
Yes, you're right, but they need to recognise what it took hundreds of years for governments to realise - women are people to!!!  As it is, they may be programming video games for the 21st century, but their collective heads are still firmly in the 19th!

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