Buying a Monitor Need feedback!!!!

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ScoobyDoo:
Jordi, you've got widescreen correct?  Have you managed to make the CAS appear correctly?  On mine the properties tab (the right side panel) is stuck right in the middle of the screen covering up nearly half of the sim.

lindaetterlee:
Yes Please Share all your secrets.

J. M. Pescado:
Nonstandard monitor resolutions are a source of grief waiting to happen. Older applications and those which do not support wonky resolutions will end up being either massively distorted, or black-barred. This would be the lesser of two evils, except that many drivers reportedly don't support this mode of display, so you just end up with distorted. Stick to a traditional 4:3 CRT. Also, LCDs look awful when displaying at anything that isn't evenly divisible with their native resolution and are extremely blurry. Anytime something moves, it dissolves into a blurry mass of poo until it stops. Not only that, they're more expensive. It is recommended that unless portability is an absolute must, and you are weak and feeble, that you stick with the classic CRTs.

trancejeremy:
My old CRT monitor died about 2 months ago.  I reluctantly went with an LG brand (1440x900 19" widescreen) LCD montior because basically widescreen was all I could find in stores - the only option was a cheap-ish ($100) CRT like that one that only lasted me 8-10 months.

If you get a low response time (mine is 2ms), there's no blurriness, though some people are more sensitive to it than others. And if it has a decent scaler built in (which the LGs do), non-native resolutions aren't that big a deal, either.

But the trouble I've had with it is the viewing angle.  The colors change color slightly as you change your viewing angle. In something with textures of different colors, you don't notice it so much, but if you have a solid color on the desktop, the edges are slightly different colors. It doesn't bother me in games, but I when I'm doing other stuff, or writing, it drives me crazy.  It's also supposedly got a 170 degree viewing angle, so I would hate to see any one that is worse. It's not so much the side to side angle, but the vertical angle - you have to have your head above the monitor and look down. So I can't slouch any more.

Also it's very weird getting used to the brightness of the whites on it. On my CRT, white was actually  sort of blue-ish. I had to change my desktop colors, because staring at a bright white background like in applications started to hurt my eyes.


KittKitt:
Quote from: lindaetterlee on 2007 September 01, 23:34:48

I just purchased the LG one. PLEASE TELL ME I made a good decision lol. Also could you please tell me how to edit the file so that it will run right?

Linda
Looking over the specifications of that one, it compares almost identically to my Samsung.  From what little experience I've personally had with the LG brand, they seem pretty solid, so I'd suspect you'll be pretty happy with it.  :)

Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2007 September 02, 07:31:23

Nonstandard monitor resolutions are a source of grief waiting to happen. Older applications and those which do not support wonky resolutions will end up being either massively distorted, or black-barred. This would be the lesser of two evils, except that many drivers reportedly don't support this mode of display, so you just end up with distorted. Stick to a traditional 4:3 CRT. Also, LCDs look awful when displaying at anything that isn't evenly divisible with their native resolution and are extremely blurry. Anytime something moves, it dissolves into a blurry mass of poo until it stops. Not only that, they're more expensive. It is recommended that unless portability is an absolute must, and you are weak and feeble, that you stick with the classic CRTs.
Don't listen to Pes.  If he had his way, we'd all just keep slave armies of cavemen on hand to chisel out each frame in sequence on big stone tablets.  ;)

Seriously, his concerns are true, but also somewhat exaggerated.  The motion blur is negligible with today's faster LCDs (I can see it with extremely fast video sequences, but only barely.  It's nowhere near what it was back when the standard delay was a fair bit higher), and if you've every bought a good CRT, you're already aware that the cost of LCDs has come down to where it's not really much more money.  In fact, once you're above the 19" mark, most quality CRTs will actually cost more than a widescreen LCD of similar proportions.  ;)

This leaves the whole distortion issue, which is a valid concern, but again, not nearly as much as it once was.  For starters, the vast majority of applications are able to run in resolutions which will look just splendid, and in the case that something will not, almost all LCD drivers now support "window boxes", which is merely black bands on the sides of the screen to keep the aspect ratio correct.  It's the same effect as if you've ever watched a widescreen DVD on a standard (square) television, only on the sides rather than top and bottom. 

While setting up my new system in fact, being I'm very into many classic game titles that most of the world has long since forgotten, I set up and tested a few using DosBox.  Thus far, all of them look just great, and I've no complaints (at least not as of yet).

Quote from: trancejeremy on 2007 September 02, 08:16:46

But the trouble I've had with it is the viewing angle.  The colors change color slightly as you change your viewing angle. In something with textures of different colors, you don't notice it so much, but if you have a solid color on the desktop, the edges are slightly different colors. It doesn't bother me in games, but I when I'm doing other stuff, or writing, it drives me crazy.  It's also supposedly got a 170 degree viewing angle, so I would hate to see any one that is worse. It's not so much the side to side angle, but the vertical angle - you have to have your head above the monitor and look down. So I can't slouch any more.

Also it's very weird getting used to the brightness of the whites on it. On my CRT, white was actually  sort of blue-ish. I had to change my desktop colors, because staring at a bright white background like in applications started to hurt my eyes.
These are also valid.  The view angle doesn't apply to up/down, only side to side.  Moving your viewing angle up or down will very probably make the colors change and appear washed-out, but that's also why most LCDs come with a stand which allows you to tilt them.  Once you get it in the right spot, it's not too bad unless you change the height of your eyes quite a bit during a given viewing session.

The whites can be quite stark by default, but there's a lot of ways to "fix" this, either right from the monitor's own color controls or by changing the display colors of windows.  Personally, now that I'm starting to get used to it, I actually find it looks much more sharp and clean than any CRT I've owned, and I seem to experience less eye strain from extended text reading than I used to as well.

-Kitt

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