Sim stuck at Secret Society - can't get home
jolrei:
I've searched the forums (fora? forae?) for a sign that someone else had this problem, and, while there are some similar issues noted previously, they don't seem to specifically address the problem that I am experiencing. Problem is this:
When my Sim gets abducted and gets to the SS (La Tour Academie attached to a custom hood), he wanders around the place aimlessly for a bit, but can't get home. No phone interaction allowed to call the limo from the SS to "go home" (the only phone interaction permitted is the phone hack "number of rings" option). In the end, I exited back to the main uni hood without saving. Back at the dorm, the limo pulled up (odd?) and he got out, but was not recognized by the game as being a SS member (no option to "call-go to SS").
Additionally, the whole time he was on the SS lot, he stayed in street clothes (no SS jacket offered). When he got out of the limo at the SS lot, after being abducted, he stood on the street for a bit, and then just walked in (still in street clothes). At one point, I hit "buy mode" to see if I could get him a jacket out of a wardrobe, and the game returned an error (was in debug mode at the time), and started generating SS members including most of the dormies in the uni. I think there were about 20 dormies on the lot by the time I exited without saving.
Once back at the dorm, I used Insim's education adjuster to make him an SS member, and then had him "call-go to SS". He got the limo fine, and went off to the SS, but when he showed up, he still had no SS jacket (not really familiar with SS abductions/inductions - how do they normally get the jacket?). This time he could call for the limo to go home, and it arrived, but in transit the game hung (black screen) refusing to reload the dorm.
I have only awesome hacks, including the "no SS respawn", "no dormie spawn", final exam fix, and much of the rest of the director's cut for UNI loaded. Additionally, I have Jenflower's woohoo teens and Insim. I'm also running with all cut scenes/animations turned off (cos I get bored with them).
Anyone else noted this problem, or know of any conflicts with hacks/mods? I'm thinking that it might be a computer memory problem (the game had slowed the 'puter down a bit, which is odd, since the bloody thing has more memory than I do, has never had graphics card problems, and has a late P4 3Gig processor).
I also recall that the abduction happened just as the Sim was supposed to run off to his final exam - he got the 1 hour warning as he was stepping out of the limo), which may have caused an internal game problem (but what do I know?).
I finally used Insim to remove him from the SS again, and will hopefully be able to recreate the scenario this evening (hope to get a new abduction), and see if it works better. If not, hopefully I'll get an error log that can shed light on this. The rest of the uni and hood work fine (as they should, being relatively new and built clean).
Any advice, speculation, or humorous commentary welcome.
phyllis_p:
I don't know what happened, but I can address a few things ...
Quote from: jolrei on 2007 July 30, 14:37:40
Once back at the dorm, I used Insim's education adjuster to make him an SS member, and then had him "call-go to SS". He got the limo fine, and went off to the SS, but when he showed up, he still had no SS jacket (not really familiar with SS abductions/inductions - how do they normally get the jacket?). This time he could call for the limo to go home, and it arrived, but in transit the game hung (black screen) refusing to reload the dorm.
How they get the jacket is, when they are kidnapped and first arrive, the members all come outside and cheer for the new inductee. Then the inductee spins around and is wearing the jacket. After that, you have the jacket available in your everyday outfits, but you have to select it yourself before you go to the SS house or else you'll just be in street clothes.
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I also recall that the abduction happened just as the Sim was supposed to run off to his final exam - he got the 1 hour warning as he was stepping out of the limo), which may have caused an internal game problem (but what do I know?).
That might have something to do with it. I know that sometimes I've had a student at the SS house close to exam time, and a few hours in advance I'll get a message that he needs to go home because he has a final coming up (or somesuch -- I quit going around exam time, so I don't remember exactly how the message goes).
jolrei:
Quote from: phyllisp on 2007 July 30, 14:50:02
How they get the jacket is, when they are kidnapped and first arrive, the members all come outside and cheer for the new inductee. Then the inductee spins around and is wearing the jacket. After that, you have the jacket available in your everyday outfits, but you have to select it yourself before you go to the SS house or else you'll just be in street clothes.
Yes, well, my sim got out of the limo after what seemed to be a glitch free abduction, but there was no "coming outside and cheering" and no "spinning around to get jacket" going on. Seemed rather anticlimactic. Hopefully a re-abduction now that the exam is past will succeed. If not, I guess I'm going to have to continue my crash course in "error logs for dummies".
miramis:
I'm also trying to work my way through a major issue involving the Secret Society in my own game. It's not precisely like yours, but there are some similarities, this is what happened.
(This is on a greek house lot)
One of 5 sims living on the lot was spotted blocking the fridge doing nothing, I ordered her to move elsewhere which she did after a short hesitation, it was just after that I realised she was about to be abducted by the SS (this was the first actual hint of an upcoming issue), she should not have moved from the where she was for a start. Anyway, she was inducted just fine, and while she was there managed to get her picture taken (I used the cheat to make one of the SS members selectable temporarily) and then she went home to the greek house as normal.
It was a few sim hours later when I realised that my legacy founder (also one of the sims living at the greek house) was missing some options on his phone, namely the 'Call Taxi' & 'Call Transportation' options that should have been there. He also did not have the option to go to the SS lot like he should have. I thought he might have been bugged (or his phone) so I set a driveway and car down. All options were there except for the visit community lot ones, at which point I realised some bad S*** was going on. I tried having sims running up and down the street looking for a possible stuck invisible limo, I forced errors on everything using the Lot Debugger (screwing up the 30 romantic photo's in his inventory which were his scorecard type of thing) but it did no good. I tried using the 'Nuke' options on the debugger - all of them in the end, but it was still the same. I used the 'stuck object remover' on the road.
When I tried calling for a delivery the mobile phone actually disappeared from his inventory ??? Immediately after trying the 'nuke - scenario controller' option, he was able to invite someone on a date (using the mobile), it went normally until the cab arrived, he could not get in it (not selectable) and it took off for the comm lot without him, actually loading the community lot in Build Mode, with no sims in sight.
I eventually moved them out (less than an hour ago now) and placed a clean backup of the greek house down after bulldozing the first. They moved in, but while we now have the options back to call taxi's and go to community lots, the Secret Society options appear to have disappeared altogether. I'm trying to find out why right now. So yeah, I think there's some sort of issue involving the SS and abductions and transportation, but what is causing it?
*edited to add* The go to SS option is there, I was looking in the wrong place and all seems well here now - I'm wondering if it was caused by fact there are four other members who should be getting abducted anytime too.
Jolrei, have you tried removing him from the SS, and then getting him abducted again the normal way?
jolrei:
Tried it all again yesterday. Removed some mods from the system (not nossregen or ssfriendcountfix), and reloaded from saved position. Made sure the chap was removed from the SS using mailbox.
He got abducted again just fine, but when he got to the SS, he got out of the limo and there was no ceremony, no cheering, and all a bit anticlimactic again. He wandered inside, and hung out with some folks, who seemed happy enough to see him (he's a romance sim and had "really good" relations with several of the female sims there (romance mod working nicely there).
I had to cheat to make him a member of the SS again before he could use the phone. However before I did this, I tried to switch into "buy" mode, and got a error: "Budget Inventory Check Failure". I noticed that the SS had no funds (0 simoleans). Additionally there is no SS jacket selectable in my Sim's wardrobe.
Error log is attached in case anyone wants to look at it and suggest anything.
The upshot of the thing is that I got a bit fed up with it in the end. I decided to try to run a vanilla version of the abduction to rule in or out the possibility that a mod was conflicting. However, just as I had saved, unloaded all my hacks/mods, and reloaded the game, my Sim graduated. I decided to let him graduate and move back to the hood and will try the vanilla approach with my other couple of playable students at some future play period. I'm sure they'll manage to get abducted, and hopefully get into the SS.
Does anyone know if the "nossregen" or "ssfriendcountfix" hacks cause any conflicts? They're the only ones that I can immediatly link to the SS part of the game (suppose there could be others). The budget inventory thing makes me think also that it might be something to do with moving money around the game, but I don't seem to have a lot of money hacks loaded.
Hey ho. Everything else seems to work fine, and the SS is not really the most useful part of the uni, but now I'm a bit preoccupied with trying to get it to work. I suppose I needed a project.
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