Lots missing after restoring default neighbourhoods from backup

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MattyDienhoff:
Sorry for the long title, but however I worded it, I couldn't get it to be any shorter without becoming incoherent.  :D

Okay, I have a problem, but first a little background. I'm a compulsive restarter. That is, if I'm not happy with the way I've done things, I'll load from the last savegame, restore a clean backup, etc, and do it all over again. I actually complete entire levels in adventure games like Tomb Raider then start again because I felt I did it too clumisily.

So some time ago, playing The Sims 2 base game, I found I wasn't happy with the way anything was going in the three default neighbourhoods, so I preserved the empty houses I wanted to keep and deleted the neighbourhoods, restoring them with a backup I'd made just after I'd installed the game. (I just zipped "C:\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Neighborhoods" up and stored it) It seemed to work perfectly, but I lost interest in TS2 shortly thereafter. Recently I bought a bunch of expansions and I've gotten back into the game in a big way, and I just noticed: In both Pleasantview and Strangetown, there is one default lot missing. In Pleasantview's case, it's a community lot, the boutique, I can do without that.

In Strangetown, however, it's the Smith house that's missing. That, I can't do without. The strange thing is the Sims who are supposed to live there, Pollination Tech #9, Jenny, and their kids, appear on community lots, visit people who've just moved in, and can be invited over by people who know them, so they are there, but their lot isn't. I'm not sure how it works but looking through the game's CD's in the past I've seen two single lot files seperated from all the others, is it possible these are the missing lots? If so, that makes no sense whatsoever to me. So I thought I'd ask for help here, since this site appears to be full of geniuses.  ;)

Thanks for your time.

Emma:
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I actually complete entire levels in adventure games like Tomb Raider then start again because I felt I did it too clumisily.

That sounds just like me :D

Have you tried copying and pasting the lots in the
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2\TSData\Res\UserData\Neighborhoods\N00(1)(2)(3)\Lots
into the lot catalog in your
C:\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Neighborhoods\N00(1)(2)(3)\Lots folder? It might overwite any problem lots or add old ones that have been deleted somehow.

jolrei:
The other thing I think of is that if your backup dates from before the EPs, it may no longer be compatible with the EP upgraded versions.  Or to put it another way, base game backup is likely not compatible with updated hood after loading UNI, OFB, NL, Seasons, etc.  Thus if you try to restore a hood using a non-compatible backup, you get strangeness.

MattyDienhoff:
Quote from: Emma on 2007 July 18, 20:04:27

Have you tried copying and pasting the lots in the
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2\TSData\Res\UserData\Neighborhoods\N00(1)(2)(3)\Lots
into the lot catalog in your
C:\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Neighborhoods\N00(1)(2)(3)\Lots folder? It might overwite any problem lots or add old ones that have been deleted somehow.

No I haven't, I'll try that now.  :)

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The other thing I think of is that if your backup dates from before the EPs, it may no longer be compatible with the EP upgraded versions.
Yeah, I thought of that but that's not what's causing the problem because as I said I replaced the neighbourhoods with the backup before I installed the EPs.

EDIT:
I found the Smith's house. N002_Lot10. But when I copied it to 'Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Neighborhoods\N002\Lots' and entered the game, it still wasn't there. I also tried putting it in the Lot Catalogue with no success, it didn't appear there either. I'm positive it's the right one, I checked it in SimPE.

Lorelei:
I had this happen as well, unrelated to installing/reinstalling, and never did get those lots back.

It is a mystery.

On the plus side, I had neither populated nor visited the lots that vanished...yet.

I do use backups when I have to add an EP or SP, and haven't lost any lots or Sims or stuff doing that (knock wood) so far.

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