It burns!
bairy:
Quote from: nectere on 2005 October 13, 20:50:02
I am not sure we are talking about the same thing or not. When I clicked into the forum in the old style there used to be a column that gave the time and name of the last poster, so at a glance you could see if there were any new replies and who the last one to reply was. So that if you asked the creator (or thread starter or whatever the case may be) a question you could quickly see whether or not they replied without having to click in the thread or actually subscribe to the thread and be notified via email. Just a quick visual check.
If you have the core pages enabled (or rather don't have them skipped) then the downloads core page (but none of the other core pages at present) does have "Last post" column in the forum part. There's no actual link to the last post but it will show you who made it.
Quote from: nectere on 2005 October 13, 20:50:02
I reset my front loading page last night, the problem I encountered however is that anything I clicked on (that should have taken me to the main page) kept me on the my revised setting page. i.e. I would click on the logo or what have you to get to the main page but it kept putting me back at the page I set as my start page. Is there any way around that? I didnt realize it would affect it that way so I put it back to the new style.
That's what's meant by "Home page". If you click Home or the logo, it will take you to your preferred page. The only way to the new or old index page is by selecting those as your home page.
Quote from: nectere on 2005 October 13, 20:50:02
I went and revised all my settings to the old style, but I got stuck in the sort by functions or room area when I went to downloads, I dont like that way of searching/viewing so I ended up resetting everything back to the new style to get the core page back which has all the stuff in that area in a list (with the sort titles on top that you can use to drill down) style format so I can see right up front whats new and whats not regardless of category.
There's not a lot can be done about that, it's one method of browsing, or the other.
nectere:
ok, well that all makes sense then.
Yes a hotlink would be great on the name of the last poster to enabled a jump to the last reply rather than having to click on the thread and then go to the last page. (lazy I know...)
skandelouslala:
Site is looking (and working!) much better now than it was a couple weeks ago..I can now find stuff much more easy.
I feel a bit bad for jumping the gun and not giving it more time...that'll teach me to be a bit more patient *heh*
humybyrd:
Quote from: bairy on 2005 October 11, 23:39:29
sagana,
Firstly, thanks for such a well thought out post. It's nice to get a geniunly constructive post we can actually work with.
I don't think MTS2 is over-moderated. There are occasions when a lot of threads are deleted within a short space of time for various reasons, and it does look heavy handed however this isn't a regular occurance.
I don't know if its a moderation issue or just a God complex but I have posted houses on MTS2 without a problem. Being limited in what I can create at this time I tried my hand at some female mass murderers. No matter what I did I could not get them posted. There was always some excuse (pictures not good enough, need shots of real and simmies for compairison etc.) I complied with the wishes of the forum mod until I got to the point of the face shots were not close up enough to show the details and a week later someone had a celebrity posted without a real person photo for compairison (something I had been turned down for on my 3rd try to get these posted!). I wasn't able to get back on for a week or so but figured that it just wasn't worth the effort anymore. At that point I decided to forget posting my stuff and just check in from time to time to see whats new. I rarely get help from anyone with regards to how to do things (wasn't that the original intention of the site?) I just get not so politely referred back to a tutorial that if I had understood in the first place I would not have had questions. Last but not least on my list of reasons I seldom go to MTS2 anymore is the fact that though the modders can group up to make these big sets or pair off to help each other on projects only 1 time was an object request actually followed through on. Now I relize that its not easy to do (hell if it were I would already be doing it) but even simple things like a floor pattern or wallpaper that could be done quickly enough by those with paintshops were ignored and I am working an a really large project house that could be much more realistic with a little help and was going to be posted on site for all to enjoy. Changing the format was just the last straw for me as now I cannot find things without spending a ton of time hunting through pages and pages of stuff. At least in the old format it marked what I had previously viewed so I would not have to waste time (du'oh I have been here already). Yes I still go there and will continue to do so but less frequently since I seldom have that much time to spare these days, and I will not post my goodies on forums run by wannabe's who only put their friends out there for the world to see. And before you mistakenly think that I should have voiced this to MTS2 understand that I did and recieved no reply other than to say that if my stuff wasn't put up for download than to just keep trying. So for me it was not just a matter of the change that keeps me from visiting often its also the way the site is run. I am glad you came here to answer questions and are able to put a bug in a few ears and get some positive change going there.
bairy:
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I don't know if its a moderation issue or just a God complex but I have posted houses on MTS2 without a problem. Being limited in what I can create at this time I tried my hand at some female mass murderers. No matter what I did I could not get them posted. There was always some excuse (pictures not good enough, need shots of real and simmies for compairison etc.) I complied with the wishes of the forum mod until I got to the point of the face shots were not close up enough to show the details and a week later someone had a celebrity posted without a real person photo for compairison (something I had been turned down for on my 3rd try to get these posted!).
Personally I can't comment on any of this because I don't deal with any kind of download moderation. I will however pass what you've said onto Delphy (site owner) and the people who do moderate it.
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I wasn't able to get back on for a week or so but figured that it just wasn't worth the effort anymore. At that point I decided to forget posting my stuff and just check in from time to time to see whats new. I rarely get help from anyone with regards to how to do things (wasn't that the original intention of the site?) I just get not so politely referred back to a tutorial that if I had understood in the first place I would not have had questions.
Again, not really my department, I generally do game help and don't usually stray outside that. I know from things I've read that there are a lot of people who skip straight past all the tutorials specifically to ask. Unfortunately people who already have may be getting tied into that wave. Again, I shall pass this on to the people who deal with the creation area.
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Last but not least on my list of reasons I seldom go to MTS2 anymore is the fact that though the modders can group up to make these big sets or pair off to help each other on projects only 1 time was an object request actually followed through on. Now I relize that its not easy to do (hell if it were I would already be doing it) but even simple things like a floor pattern or wallpaper that could be done quickly enough by those with paintshops were ignored and I am working an a really large project house that could be much more realistic with a little help and was going to be posted on site for all to enjoy.
You can probably guess what I'm gonna say here :)
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Changing the format was just the last straw for me as now I cannot find things without spending a ton of time hunting through pages and pages of stuff. At least in the old format it marked what I had previously viewed so I would not have to waste time (du'oh I have been here already).
If you go to edit Options, you can now choose to skip the core pages and new download browser, effectively giving you back the "old view". You can also set your home page for the old index page, the site map, or any of the sections in between.
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Yes I still go there and will continue to do so but less frequently since I seldom have that much time to spare these days, and I will not post my goodies on forums run by wannabe's who only put their friends out there for the world to see.
I don't think that's entirely fair or true. I don't look extensively at the download section but I know there's quite a range of posters. I understand why you'd say that though.
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And before you mistakenly think that I should have voiced this to MTS2 understand that I did and recieved no reply other than to say that if my stuff wasn't put up for download than to just keep trying. So for me it was not just a matter of the change that keeps me from visiting often its also the way the site is run.
Will pass that on.
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I am glad you came here to answer questions and are able to put a bug in a few ears and get some positive change going there.
I'm glad I came here too. It's been largely constructive and well thought out and there has been some good progress. I'm glad some people like yourself are able to make posts that are actually useful without resorting to insults as it helps us see what's wrong.
Unfortunately, being only a help mod, I can't comment on a lot of the download-area concerns but I will definitely pass the address of this post on to the various section moderators.
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