It burns!
aussieone:
Quote from: Brynne on 2005 October 11, 15:15:26
Quote from: pet_peeve on 2005 October 10, 00:12:17
Quote from: Brynne on 2005 October 08, 02:31:55
Retardo Land frightens me. It's bbs-obsessed. It's disturbing. Boring and disturbing.
Indeed. Beating up the kids on the short bus gets *really* old after a while. PV
Nice way of putting it :D
Lk, I wasn't directing anything personally at you. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said. I just can't stomach Retardo Land, but that's my opinion. Apparently many can stomach it just fine. What bothers me is that Retardo Land is the only impression some have of MATY, which makes us all look like fools with a serious superiority complex. I know that shouldn't bother me, but it does.
I'm glad that there are others who feel the same way I do.......
Retardo Land is obviously a lot of fun and entertainment for some people and I'm not one to criticise anybody's choice of that, but I find it less than entertaining and yes, the superiority complex does seem to be alive and well in there :-[
sanmonroe:
As someone who only uses a very tiny number of hacks outside the critical ones, I rarely looked at MTS2, less than 10 times total in the last year. After NL came out I went looking for updates and the new system was horrible, unorganized, difficult to use, and not logical in any way.
So its not just the people who use it all the time and are used to a certain way.
If you want to keep this useless confguration with broken searches mixed with requests etc, at least make a list of direct links to complete hacks and in testing hacks that is easy for anyone to find.
As for the increase in traffic, more is not always better.
Shivani:
Quote from: bairy on 2005 October 11, 08:12:31
Unfortunately, no one has told us that Mozilla is still playing up. Firefox and Mozilla are supposed to use the exact same rendering engine and firefox is fixed (at least, no one has said otherwise) [et. al.]
You know, you'd be right in saying someone like me never bothered to post at MTS2 about the problem. Then again, I so rarely actually say anything anywhere that it'd be a miracle indeed if I had. I won't reiterate earlier comments I made--you've already read them.
I will, however, wander off that way shortly to see if it's corrected itself now. Danke.
bairy:
dizzy-two,
I've passed your suggestions on to Delphy. I don't know when/if they'll get implemented (I know that hack requests are going to be moved back to the requests section)
nectere,
I agree Firefox did rather botch the site up. One of the problems was trying to figure out exactly why it did it, and it took some time until there was time to actually consistantly reproduce the bug and track down the reason for it.
"IE blows chunkies, don't ever ask me to use it, I will quit first"
IE gets a lot of bad press. Yes, it's awfully designed, slow, sloppy and generally crap. However it does do what it's supposed to (barely) and isn't unsafe to use so long as you have various protection in place, just in case. The only reason I suggested people use it is because we couldn't even figure out why the Firefox bug happened, and in a toss up between bad page rendering, and proper page rendering on an badly thought out browser, the browser won because after all it was just one site for a short period of time.
"I saw I hated, end of story. "
You and about 500 others...
"I don't particularly like the front page, but that is because I already know what I want and where I am going."
If you edit the options, you can choose which page you want as the home page. And with new code upcoming, you'll be able to skip the core pages completely and be taken straight to the "old" version (i.e. the forum itself)
"I don't see the point in poking fun of children in such a spiteful hateful way"
This is a catch 22 in a way. Some of the kids don't know the better and some of the adults get pissed off due to lack of tolerance/understanding.
sagana,
Firstly, thanks for such a well thought out post. It's nice to get a geniunly constructive post we can actually work with.
I don't think MTS2 is over-moderated. There are occasions when a lot of threads are deleted within a short space of time for various reasons, and it does look heavy handed however this isn't a regular occurance.
This is the thing. Comments aren't really there for "I'm first!!" posts, they aren't even there for "thank you!!!!!" posts (there's a button for that), they're there in case there's a problem with the download, or in case someone can offer something constructive. If the "I'm first" and generally useless posts were allowed to run rampant then there would be several pages of rubbish and the one comment saying something is wrong could be missed, which means someone misses out for the sake of someone else boasting about being first.
The idea of just making posts disappear is good in principal, but then there would be an in-flood into Site Issues about it and we know from experience that people will happily smack the new thread button to ask a question that already has 15 threads on the main forum display ergo a ton of "where did my post go??????" threads pushing the real site issues out.
I can't really comment on the "chat" element or the build comment because I joined 3 months ago when the site was more or less developed (forum wise) and so I had no say in either.
With the new format, I do agree that the core pages can be rather overwhelming at first, however they are improving all the time, the help one, although still quite fully packed, has been reduced quite a lot from the original one. I think the others need simplifying too. Again, it all takes time to really sort out. I would also say though that I still think it's a lot better than the previous version in the sense that each section is now actually explained instead of you just getting thrown into a forum listing.
A problem is that when we ask people for feedback on the design, we get "it sucks ass majorly" or "yeah it rocks" (as my reply to sanmonroe below will testify). No one is actually specific on what they do or don't like, so it's difficult to judge what is and isn't wanted.
sanmonroe,
"After NL came out I went looking for updates and the new system was horrible, unorganized, difficult to use, and not logical in any way."
I don't know what to do with that info because it doesn't really say a lot. What did you find difficult to use, how do you think it could be organised better or more logical?
"So its not just the people who use it all the time and are used to a certain way."
Fair point.
"at least make a list of direct links to complete hacks and in testing hacks that is easy for anyone to find."
Good idea. I don't know how easy that will be to implement or maintain but it's certainly worth looking into.
Mendota:
Well, I find the new interface to be a bit daunting myself, but I think it is unfair in the extreme to bash Mod2.
1. They were the first real Sims2 site to come on line. They are responsible for paving the way, so to speak for many of the later sites. Many who have their own sites now, started out at MTS They were the real start of the Sims2 community.
2. They host their site for free and the also support others
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3. Delphy and Mod the Sims are the ones that created the tools that so employ in their making of objects. If we had to rely on Maxis we would be still waiting.
I enjoy this site myself, but I don't feel the need to bash MTS in order to show my appreciation for this siete. It is one thing to say you don't care for the new layout, and quite another to say they "suck". etc.
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