It burns!
Brynne:
Quote from: pet_peeve on 2005 October 10, 00:12:17
Quote from: Brynne on 2005 October 08, 02:31:55
Retardo Land frightens me. It's bbs-obsessed. It's disturbing. Boring and disturbing.
Indeed. Beating up the kids on the short bus gets *really* old after a while. PV
Nice way of putting it :D
Lk, I wasn't directing anything personally at you. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said. I just can't stomach Retardo Land, but that's my opinion. Apparently many can stomach it just fine. What bothers me is that Retardo Land is the only impression some have of MATY, which makes us all look like fools with a serious superiority complex. I know that shouldn't bother me, but it does.
dizzy:
Now that I've gone back and taken a fresh look at it, I think I see where the problem is with the new MTS2 design:
1) You cannot see who the most recent poster was.
2) There is no indicator of which "Show" and which "Sort" is being used.
3) Requests are mixed with the posts (which makes it confusing in the Testing Grounds especially).
4) The navigation links don't remember your "Show" or "Sort" settings (and sometimes don't make sense).
I think those are the major problems I have with the new design.
LK:
Quote from: Brynne on 2005 October 11, 15:15:26
Lk, I wasn't directing anything personally at you. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said. I just can't stomach Retardo Land, but that's my opinion. Apparently many can stomach it just fine. What bothers me is that Retardo Land is the only impression some have of MATY, which makes us all look like fools with a serious superiority complex. I know that shouldn't bother me, but it does.
Don't worry, I know you weren't (although I like to pretend like that I do; it makes it more fun). And, yes, I've noticed that some people do think all MATY is is RL--I playfully remind such people that they should cork up their ears, lest more brain cells leak out.
nectere:
I admit, I hated the new layout at first, but I hate change in general. And Firefox was horribly broken when MTS2's new layout first hit. Currently it's been working well the last few weeks and I have gotten used to the new layout for the most part. (IE blows chunkies, don't ever ask me to use it, I will quit first)
I do agree though, I miss the part where you could see who the last poster in a thread was, so I don't have to keep clicking back in the thread to see if my question may have been answered or not. I don't like the testing ground area, because of all the requests. But I do like the core pages because it lets me see everything at once and I can see what is new at a glance without having to drill down. I don't particularly like the front page, but that is because I already know what I want and where I am going. Not a big deal, just bookmark a different page.
I guess what I am trying to say, is yes I was irritated when MTS2 first introduced the new layout, it didn't work correctly with my browser, and I had had a few drinks at the time when I complained in chat so I was shall we say, a little too candid or abrupt. I saw I hated, end of story. But since it now works with firefox I have gotten used to it. I am sure it will never be exactly the way I want it because I didn't design it.
We will always have to deal with ten and eleven year olds no matter where we go, that is just the nature of being an adult and being a gamer. That's why I don't particularly care for RL, I don't see the point in poking fun of children in such a spiteful hateful way, I would be really annoyed if my kid was being treated that way simply because she isn't as mature as the "adults" on that forum.
O, and I am a woman faemidwife. ;)
Sagana:
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With a site as big and popular as MTS2, you have to nip bad posts as quickly as possibly, before they turn the thread into a bad one.
For me personally, Mod the Sims2 is over-modded. I don't care much for heavy-handed moderation and I noticed one day that more than half/3/4s of the first page of the sims2 chat section consisted of locked threads of one sort or another (complete with little "you can't say that here" messages, and who cares if someone says "yeah I'm first to say thanks" before they say "thanks I love this dl?" All the content of a post like that is fluff anyways (good fluff, but still noise, not signal)). I think it would actually be better to deal with the "issues" privately - probably that many PMs isn't feasible, I guess, but... even just deleting some stuff without saying anything would be better in many cases (imo, of course - not that my opinion is of any import) than making it so obvious.
I still don't like the "chat" division anyway - I suspect if one wanted discussion on that site, it would be more interesting discussion if it wasn't so divided all up. Go here for this one, and there for that one. Then, I'm not sure the site wants to be a discussion site at all, and in that case, might be better off not even bothering to try to cater to that aspect, but leaving that for other chat sites.
As for the new format, I like some aspects of it quite well. It is, imo, overly and unnecessarily graphics heavy which makes it slow to load and clunky (and clunky-looking, not as streamlined professional as it could be - the opening screen pics look like tarot cards to me) and it "requires" things of its users (a certain large browser window size, and when someone said they didn't like that Delphy said something like "bigger screens are the wave of the future, catch up" which doesn't much take into account those of it who prefer not to give away our entire valuable screen space to one window, even if our monitors are plenty large enough (I tend to do many things on my computer at once). It still doesn't work well with my mac (netscape and/or firefox depending on which computer I'm on, IE doesn't get along with my mac either), actually (or didn't, I haven't been over there in a bit) but I didn't see any reason to mention it as the earlier posts said it was or was going to be worked on and I didn't see anything saying it was supposed to be fixed. When I mentioned an aspect of the old system I'd like to see included in the new, I was told to just use the old one... well, uh, I was saying I'd like to use the new and it just had something missing for me. Using the old one wouldn't provide the options of the new I liked - I mean... I dunno, that's a kind of strange response.
It's a strange board, really... I'm still sorry about the decision that seemed to dump a large number of the best builders and think the building area suffered for it. It seems to be coming back some now... and it's still the best place to go to find out new stuff or how to do something, or for some good downloads. but I've only been on this one a few weeks and have no idea what moderation and information and other such things are like over here or anything like that, so dunno about comparisons.
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