Objects from Sims' inventory unable to cast shadows

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witch:
Yeah, I use Delete with MoveObjects on sims, that works fine & I've never had a problem.

I had a moveout bug in my first n'hood and using debug mode, selected Delete on a sim instead of Reset, completely screwed the sim. BFBVFS  :'(

ElviraGoth:
Well, I don't seem to have a problem with shadows showing up for the objects that can't be placed against a wall, but after moving 15 sim families to new houses, this is what I noticed consistenly:

Single beds place fine.
Double beds: can't be placed against the wall.
Dressers/armoires: Most of the time, can't be placed against the wall.
Couches (sofas):  Can place with one arm against a wall, but not the other.  (So I could only place them facing one direction, but not facing the opposite direction, with an arm next to a wall.)
Pianos: place fine.
Any other musical instrument has to be away from the wall by a tile, even though I've placed them next to a wall before.

Now - I used moveobjects to postition them next to the wall.  For every double bed I did this with, my sims were unable to woohoo.  It would come up in the pie menu for only one of the two involved, but not for the other.  When I clicked on "woohoo" for the sim it showed up for, it would go up to the bed queue like it should, then disappear right away.  I had to sell the bed and buy a new one, and then they could woohoo without problem.  Other activities like sleeping and relaxing worked like they should on the bed that had been moved, though.

I've only had one painting that I moved, and I didn't have any trouble placing it on a wall.  Also have a couple of photos that one artistic sim took, and they moved from one house to the other just fine as well.

I didn't try to force error on the beds, but I have a couple of previously moved sims whose beds I haven't replaced yet, and if I think of it I'll try to force an error on a bed and see it if works.

Things I don't move any more are curtains/drapes.  These always show up from the outside of the house when the wall is cutaway, and I find it very annoying, so I leave the drapes in the old house and buy them new ones in the new house.  Also, purchased paintings that are moved from one house to another do the same thing.

Those are the only things I've noticed so far.

Edit:  I tried force error/reset on one of the beds and it didn't work.  I had to delete it and buy another one.

MaxoidTom:
Quote from: ElviraGoth on 2005 October 15, 15:40:53

Well, I don't seem to have a problem with shadows showing up for the objects that can't be placed against a wall, but after moving 15 sim families to new houses, this is what I noticed consistenly:

Single beds place fine.
Double beds: can't be placed against the wall.
Dressers/armoires: Most of the time, can't be placed against the wall.
Couches (sofas):  Can place with one arm against a wall, but not the other.  (So I could only place them facing one direction, but not facing the opposite direction, with an arm next to a wall.)
Pianos: place fine.
Any other musical instrument has to be away from the wall by a tile, even though I've placed them next to a wall before.

Now - I used moveobjects to postition them next to the wall.  For every double bed I did this with, my sims were unable to woohoo.  It would come up in the pie menu for only one of the two involved, but not for the other.  When I clicked on "woohoo" for the sim it showed up for, it would go up to the bed queue like it should, then disappear right away.  I had to sell the bed and buy a new one, and then they could woohoo without problem.  Other activities like sleeping and relaxing worked like they should on the bed that had been moved, though.

I've only had one painting that I moved, and I didn't have any trouble placing it on a wall.  Also have a couple of photos that one artistic sim took, and they moved from one house to the other just fine as well.

I didn't try to force error on the beds, but I have a couple of previously moved sims whose beds I haven't replaced yet, and if I think of it I'll try to force an error on a bed and see it if works.

Things I don't move any more are curtains/drapes.  These always show up from the outside of the house when the wall is cutaway, and I find it very annoying, so I leave the drapes in the old house and buy them new ones in the new house.  Also, purchased paintings that are moved from one house to another do the same thing.

Those are the only things I've noticed so far.

Edit:  I tried force error/reset on one of the beds and it didn't work.  I had to delete it and buy another one.


It sounds like you are pretty knowledgeable about these problems.  Could you post some information using the official bug form for NL on the Sims 2 BBS?  I asked the engineer who worked on inventory to take a look, but he was unable to reproduce these issues.  Any 3rd party modifications that may have conflicted?

simmiecal:
Quote from: MaxoidTom on 2005 October 15, 17:52:08


It sounds like you are pretty knowledgeable about these problems.  Could you post some information using the official bug form for NL on the Sims 2 BBS?  I asked the engineer who worked on inventory to take a look, but he was unable to reproduce these issues.  Any 3rd party modifications that may have conflicted?


Just as an FYI -
I had the same problem with beds and dressers with no hacks/objects/downloads in the game (had never been in the game at that time) so I really think this is a NL problem. There are several people who don't have any mods in the game that have had this happen. The engineer couldn't reproduce this with any double bed? It happened with every expensive (top 3 priced) double beds that I had put into inventory (don't know about the cheaper ones - my sims only buy the best  ;) ). I do know that in two cases, the sim was moving from a base neighborhood to a downtown lot when it happened, but it also happened with a move between two lots in the base neighborhood.   ???

But even with these glitches with the inventory, I still think the inventory is one of the best features of NL. Hopefully we can resolve these few problems with it.

Scotbo:
I've been having the same problem with objects taken from the inventory and my game is hack free (with the exception of Quaxi's  no-censor hack). I normally play with shadows off so I haven't seen any errors related to that.  I've noticed it with double beds, dressers and some career and aspiration rewards. It doesn't effect every instance of these objects, but does it often enough that it is quite annoying.  I have to delete the object and buy a new one so that it can be placed against walls.

I've also had problems moving some objects into the inventory.  The buffet table and university degrees (taken off the wall) are the only objects I've had issues with so far.  I grab the object with the mouse, but there is no description in the inventory panel and it won't allow me to place it in inventory.

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