Request, nay Demand! for a new FAQ
Strangel:
Quote from: Orikes on 2007 June 03, 05:16:05
I would LOVE to see something like this.
There are quite a few technically ignorant 'kids' on another board I follow, and I can't tell you how many times I've repeated some of these things. I also can't repeat how many times someone has come back and said, "I did <insert really stupid, game killing thing here> and I haven't had any problems. You must be wrong."
Then a week or two later, they're whining because their neighborhood is acting stupid. *sigh*
I believe I'm a member of the same board.. and I washed my hands of the Games Help section after getting EXACTLY that reply for the fifth time when trying to warn someone or explain why so-and-so just became "invisible".
When that happens, I take a breath, remember they're all 12.. and I am over thirty. Then I smirk and boot up sims.
That being said, when we first started out as simmers (the wife and I, her having previously been a TS1 addict) we did all SORTS of VBTs and as a result decimated several neighborhoods and in the end did some unknown thing so terribly wrong that the computer tried to untangle the program it was reading and just said "I give up."
Now the sims are on my computer.. and I have control of things. I also have MATY to absorb information from like the proverbial sponge.
Incidentally, what started our sim problems on her computer was her unwillingness to keep the Maxis Trio - all of which I was using for my sims. Sooo.. we, the blissfully unaware, lotted up all my sims and dropped the whole mess into her custom 'hood. Which she'd previously done a DAC in. Plus, she had Kitten Killer and god only knows what other UnAwesomeness in her downloads folder. Again, we had no idea what we were doing and we were both avid (rabid) download spree-ers without a worry in the world about where we were getting our content or what the hacks were doing. Even worse, we had fun with the Tombstone and various other unsavory sides of the programmers' back doors. We fully deserved the ass-whipping the computer handed back. LOL
Orikes:
I think most of us have gone through that to some degree or another, Strangel. Perhaps not Pescado, but not all of us can be omniscient. :) I deleted characters, downloaded inhabited lots and definitely mucked up my first neighborhood.
Still, it would be nice to have a one-stop-shopping type of FAQ for the VBT things that people can do to their game. Then it'd be easier to point people in the right direction for some more astute sounding explanation than 'Smart people said you shouldn't do that because it's bad.' It might be over some of their heads, but the ones that get it would eventually not make the same mistake twice.
(It's not so much the kids with technical problems that bother me. What gets me are the ones who pop into various threads to tell you you're wrong because they've done that and it's never caused any problems in their neighborhood. Sometimes I wished Darwin's Law worked online.)
Strangel:
Quote from: Orikes on 2007 June 04, 07:45:38
I think most of us have gone through that to some degree or another, Strangel. Perhaps not Pescado, but not all of us can be omniscient. :) I deleted characters, downloaded inhabited lots and definitely mucked up my first neighborhood.
Still, it would be nice to have a one-stop-shopping type of FAQ for the VBT things that people can do to their game. Then it'd be easier to point people in the right direction for some more astute sounding explanation than 'Smart people said you shouldn't do that because it's bad.' It might be over some of their heads, but the ones that get it would eventually not make the same mistake twice.
(It's not so much the kids with technical problems that bother me. What gets me are the ones who pop into various threads to tell you you're wrong because they've done that and it's never caused any problems in their neighborhood. Sometimes I wished Darwin's Law worked online.)
I completely agree with ALL of this.. LMAO It's just those people that've stopped me from telling people the bad news when they talk about 'splodey symptoms.. because no sooner did I post than someone else piped up with "I do it all the time blah blah blah". Well guess what? The Wife does all kinds of wrongcrap to HER neighborhood (including DAC) and so far all that's happened is we had to systematically kill off a downloaded vampire family and occasionally, she gets an error and moves the family to a new lot.
MY custom Legacy 'hood? I do everything perfect and BOOM. I've lost five simselves. That's why Fond-Goo hasn't seen an update in so long. lol I started rebuilding in a new 'hood, only to have a couple of lots error out on planting the newly (and properly) cloned simselves in their lots. Plus, Cupid's Corner (my custom comm lot) seems to be spewing "fountain" errors on all sims who enter and occasionally infecting other lots. Sooooo.. Full reinstall, new NEW hood, fully wiped of characters, and I'm harvesting, cloning, and packaging all simselves and special townies to drop in. Again.
With an FAQ, at least I could say "LOOK! THAT'S THE SMART PEOPLE! I *told* you they said there was a GOOD reason not to do this shit!"
Plus, I get to rub Wifey's nose in it when she can't figure out why one of her families is freaking out at toilets and talking to walls. XD
Sagana:
If you over-emphasize 'doom and gloom' for issues that don't actually blow up the game, people will tune you out. (general 'you's' there) as 'crying wolf' and not listen when the wolf really is at their door. MATY already has a bit of this reputation ('they say *everything* is bad over there.)
Marrying a cheerleader is an annoyance, not a game-breaker. Same with the Seasons family with the twins (Ottowhoever they are) - it's annoying but doesn't seem to cause a BFBVFS. The annoyances can be fun, when someone gives the llama mascot a story-background (furry warning.)
What exactly is the problem with Delete all Characters? My understanding, some time ago was that DAC makes it impossible to batch regenerate townies. I have 3 hoods where I used it, 2 of which I've been playing for months with no issues at all, but as I never intended to batch (or even single-up) create townies, that was never an issue for me.
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Plus, Cupid's Corner (my custom comm lot) seems to be spewing "fountain" errors on all sims who enter and occasionally infecting other lots.
If you've got fountain errors chances are you have Targa's backdrop. If you do, take that out, it's broke.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: sagana on 2007 June 04, 11:20:49
Marrying a cheerleader is an annoyance, not a game-breaker. Same with the Seasons family with the twins (Ottowhoever they are) - it's annoying but doesn't seem to cause a BFBVFS. The annoyances can be fun, when someone gives the llama mascot a story-background (furry warning.)
Marrying a cheerleader is a harmless annoyance: Other than annoying the hell out of you, it doesn't actually have any negative side effects. The Ottomas brokenness, however, actually damages data integrity.
I suppose we could terror-alert the various wrong things you can do.
Quote from: sagana on 2007 June 04, 11:20:49
What exactly is the problem with Delete all Characters? My understanding, some time ago was that DAC makes it impossible to batch regenerate townies. I have 3 hoods where I used it, 2 of which I've been playing for months with no issues at all, but as I never intended to batch (or even single-up) create townies, that was never an issue for me.
DAC is "incomplete". It's not WRONG to use it, but it does not "finish the job", so to speak, and leaves behind some dangling data garbage in your otherwise cleaned neighborhood.
Also, there's a clear distinction between "neighborhood level" corruption (very bad!) and merely instance level (lot) corruption. Instance-level corruption is generally repairable by simply destroying the corrupted lot. Neighborhood-level corruption is junking up your neighborhood files with janky data.
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