Flirt = Affair? Wtf?

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Kyna:
Lizzlove has a gender preference kite at MTS2.  You can set your sims to gay, straight or bi.  I had that in my game for a while, before I got ACR.

akatonbo:
Yeah, as much fun as ACR sounds (I'll probably create a separate user account to play with it someday), I don't want it in my normal game, and I don't want to have to switch it in and out all the time either.

Kyna, that's EXACTLY the kind of thing I was hoping for. I think I might have seen it before, but forgot about it because I wasn't using anything at the time that it would matter for.

Zeljka:
But some people are just flirty.
I have friends who flirt with everyone and everything, (gender indifferent) because that's just their personality, but it isn't sexual (to them) and they do so regardless of a spouse/partner's presence. 
In the game, I could see that translating to crushes from others, but it shouldn't for them.

In game, I feel 'Affair' should happen only after a kiss or woohoo because I can't imagine many partners finding that acceptable. If there were a way to define it, only after a real kiss, not a peck, which some people do to acquaintances and strangers. (I wish there was a 'family kiss' for non-family, heh heh)
Perhaps it should also be triggered by love, but I don't think crush should do it as faithful committed people can have crushes on others without cheating. (you're married, not buried and if you don't act on it, you haven't cheated)

Soylent Sim:
Again, that's the difference between the real world and the sims' world.

People IRL can flirt without meaning anything more by it, but in the game such interactions are very clearly meant as a stepping stone to a more intimate relationship.  The real life equivalent of light flirting would be a conversation topic somewhere in the chat menu, not something meant to welcome a crush/love status and everything meant from there.

The ultimate problem is that the romance engine in this game sucks, no two ways about it.  Romancemod and noinstantlove help, as does ACR if that's the mood you're going for, but in the end you have to accept that there are ways that the reality for sims is fundamentally different from that for people.  Cleaning up the end results without cleaning up the causal factors would probably just cause more oddities than the current system does.

SnootCB:
I don't know if any of the romance mods do this, but I think it would be swell if there were different levels of affairs.  I mean, I understand people wanting some of their sims to have open relationships, but if we are going for realism here, I would personally be pretty upset if I saw my boyfriend "Goose" or "Caress" some other girl- though not nearly as upset if he had actually done "WooHoo" with her.  So, maybe have the Flirt interactions still give the cheating memory (because they can cause crush/love), but let the cheated-on sim's furious state not last as long as it would in the case of a WooHoo-type of affair, and let the relationship damage be much less, um, damaging- enough to need some groveling, but not enough to knock the sim out of love with their spouse. 

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