Restaurant and gardener troubles

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qvcatullus:
Thanks for the details, notovny!

I do use the BRY thingy, but don't end up actively using it much, so unless it has some autonomous/passive function I don't think I'm getting much out of it.

As per the gardener/portal deletion business: I have some of Crammyboy's things in the game from way back to stop various portal deletions, and these include a 'portal monitor' that came packaged in. I don't see an rtfm for the monitor itself. What does it do... warn when a portal has disappeared? I didn't get any warnings related to the gardener thing. Does it need to be in 'debug mode' and if so, how do I turn that on (never messed with it, always used hacks to fix things as they show up)? Finally, will the broken portal pose a danger to other lots in the hood, or is it more of a symptom of greater, very bad things?

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: qvcatullus on 2007 May 03, 15:58:59

I do use the BRY thingy, but don't end up actively using it much, so unless it has some autonomous/passive function I don't think I'm getting much out of it.
BRY has a passive functionality that overrides the "stare stupidly into space" "logic" of Maxis employees, as long as Macrotastics and necessary modules are correctly installed. Otherwise, it malfunctions or does absolutely nothing at all.

Skadi:
I've had a successful restaurant, without BRY but the the host, cook and server were all family. Keeps wages low. First day the business made $1000 and has been growing since. Only employed servers, since the playables ran everything else.
BRY makes it easier though.

-Skadi

nocomment:
Here are some details that may help you.

There's no need to show them the menu or do a sales pitch.  Customers will eventually browse the podium on their own, and buy without a sales pitch.

This will be frustrating at first, because there are so few customers.  As your rank moves up, you will have more customers and the flow will be steady.

You can do the sales pitch, if you like, to earn stars and move up in rank.

The fewer "fun" things you have around, the more likely they are to browse the podium.

If you want customers sitting next to each other chatting, put in a bar.  I mean, a long row of counters with barstools - not a juice bar.  Usually townies will be seated one per table, which can look odd.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Skadi on 2007 May 03, 20:48:35

I've had a successful restaurant, without BRY but the the host, cook and server were all family.
Manual control would let you do what BRY does, namely, rotate the jobs around as the workers need breaks, especially since some roles have no real specific need to retain a dedicated employee at all times, and often one sim is capable of effectively performing the entire cycle. However, Maxis code is stupid and does not handle this well. Or at all.

Alas, this configuration produces a nonfunctional restaurant that cannot be used as one by other families, as if you try to visit this restaurant as a visitor, nobody except the owner will be present, and the owner will not do any work, since Maxis did not include any way to assign a job or effectively recognize what jobs really need doing (hence the way managers arbitrarily reassign everyone at random, leaving your business assignments screwed up when you revisit).

Basically, it's not possible to create a profitable pure-restaurant due to the massive inefficiency of stupid Maxis AI code, and impossible to effectively make use of ANY employees at all for more than a brief duration without BRY, since they will quickly stop working and have no method of repairing depleted motives.

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