HUZZAH! Banned from Rentech.com!
veilchen:
Quote from: laeshanin on 2005 July 22, 20:29:15
Have to say, does any of this matter now as the hacks are again available and Pescado is placed at the top of the food chain?
Just wondered who really gives a flying ****...
Well, one thing is that those who need JM can not find him from Various' site anymore, they would have to go to MTS2 for that. I just went through the site and found that all the posts he made have been deleted. It's actually quite comical sometimes, people seem to answer themselves or respond to something that is not there. Even the individual posts that had a link to this site have been altered in some way or other.
Interpersonal difficulties should not be carried this far as to deny those in need of help access to it. It is the hypocrisy of this that is very annoying. To proclaim that a site has been set up solely for helping fellow simmers, but providing forums as well is one thing, to deny information or direct access to the most talented modder in the community is quite another.
If you want to implement rules, be consistent. The avatar in question did not bother me in the least, but they have at least one member there who delights in calling people "crackhead", makes constant references to 'crack' and has in his/her signature under location the following: "Where do you think, CrackHead?"
I find this far more bothering than everything else I have come across since the break-up.
Censorship and hypocracy are the two things I deplore the most. Having been involved in the former discussion about the issue (and receiving a very defensive non-answer), and witnessing the latter now in more than one way is rather disturbing.
G.
Marvin Kosh:
Quote from: veilchen on 2005 July 23, 15:14:19
Interpersonal difficulties should not be carried this far as to deny those in need of help access to it. It is the hypocrisy of this that is very annoying. To proclaim that a site has been set up solely for helping fellow simmers, but providing forums as well is one thing, to deny information or direct access to the most talented modder in the community is quite another.
IMO, trying to erase the imprint of JM's work is futile, unless you ban everyone who has knowledge of this site. People's questions about what hack they can get to fix a problem, will continue to be answered with a helpful link, because oddly enough that is the most effective way to get them to what they need. The internet was designed so that if information could not get through one way, it could find another way, and in some ways the communities it fosters have that same ability.
Or in other words, you can shoot the messenger, but you can't kill the message.
Oddysey:
That, and JM has a tank. It's hard to make someone disappear if they have a tank.
syberspunk:
Quote from: veilchen on 2005 July 23, 15:14:19
If you want to implement rules, be consistent. The avatar in question did not bother me in the least, but they have at least one member there who delights in calling people "crackhead", makes constant references to 'crack' and has in his/her signature under location the following: "Where do you think, CrackHead?"
I find this far more bothering than everything else I have come across since the break-up.
Can someone fill me in and describe to me what was this so-called questionable avatar? I love a fantabulously ridiculous heated controversy and juicy delightfully delicious gossip! ;D Please enlighten me! As I missed all of the wonderfully exciting drama! This sounds almost better than Desperate Housewives, and that's nearly impossible to top right now. :D
Ste
ZephyrZodiac:
Quote from: Marvin Kosh on 2005 July 23, 16:35:13
Quote from: veilchen on 2005 July 23, 15:14:19
Interpersonal difficulties should not be carried this far as to deny those in need of help access to it. It is the hypocrisy of this that is very annoying. To proclaim that a site has been set up solely for helping fellow simmers, but providing forums as well is one thing, to deny information or direct access to the most talented modder in the community is quite another.
IMO, trying to erase the imprint of JM's work is futile, unless you ban everyone who has knowledge of this site. People's questions about what hack they can get to fix a problem, will continue to be answered with a helpful link, because oddly enough that is the most effective way to get them to what they need. The internet was designed so that if information could not get through one way, it could find another way, and in some ways the communities it fosters have that same ability.
Or in other words, you can shoot the messenger, but you can't kill the message.
Also, anyone who is a member of any other forums can post a link to here. If, every time we come across someone with a problem that can be solved by using one of JM's hacks, we give them the URL, then what is going on at VS will make no real difference! I've noticed that a lot of people with a problem do post at more than one site, so even if one site they choose is VS, thre's a good chance that wherever else they post, someone will be able to help them find their way here!
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