Wanting to Re-Generate my Townies.

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SaraMK:
This thread is such a good illustration of how in spite of our best intentions and best efforts, it is often best not to attempt to educate some people....

And I'm not saying this to be mean. I'm just saying this thread is perfect proof that it's not always a good idea to tell people how to do stuff that shouldn't really be attempted by anyone who hasn't received at least an "acceptable" on a test of common sense. "Common sense" being the little voice inside your head that should have told you that backing up your neighborhood before ripping it to shreds with 3rd party tools is a good idea.

Oh, wait... that did kind of sound mean.

People on this forum do tend to assume that others have already mastered the basic concepts, so things like "make a backup" are often omitted from tutorials and other bits of advice. And they will  point and laugh if their advice causes a catastrophe.



I do hope you have a backup, Solowren, even if it's an older one.




Now let us all sit back and wait for STLBailey, with her bright red font, to come crying about her neighborhood exploding. If she doesn't, we can assume she gets a "passing" on the common sense test. However, the fact that she neither knows who Inge is or what a "teleporter bush" is  (perhaps one of the most commonly and widely used hacks), does not bode well as far as her ability to successfully use a complicated tool that shreds critical neighborhood files....

BeckerCheez:
If one is unhappy with the townies he has, take the ugly ones and start a community cemetary.  The cute ones can be made over.  You can also go into SimPE and change their names.  It may not be a total fix of getting rid of townies, but it's better than making the neighborhood go explodey.  Sorry you lost your neighborhood but it's a risk to go into the game and fiddle with integral files like that.   :(

angelyne:
Good point Sara. 

However my advice was pretty safe.  I told him to simply kill off his townies.  Not delete them.  All in game stuff.  You can't really go massively wrong from within the game, so long as you don't start using the more powerful cheats. ( Or use some of Maxis completely fubared options, like family binning, which I didn't even mention).  And my advice to makeover the townies was safe too.  Can't really go wrong with Inge's teleport bush.  And the DMA is even safer.

Being in tech support, I'm used to dealing with all sort of levels of competency. Rule one.  Don't treat your customer like idiots, but never assume they are computer savy, unless they show you they are.  And it was clear from Solowren  questions that he fell in the category of "knows just enough to be dangerous".

BTW Solowren, system restore only restores changes made to system files, such as the operating system or program files. It's best used when a newly installed program, or driver, or malware/virus borked your system.  It does not affect data.  Neither should it, or it would wipe all recent changes made to your data. 

SaraMK:
Quote from: angelyne on 2007 March 06, 05:56:36

Good point Sara. 

However my advice was pretty safe.  I told him to simply kill off his townies.  Not delete them.  All in game stuff.  You can't really go massively wrong from within the game, so long as you don't start using the more powerful cheats. ( Or use some of Maxis completely fubared options, like family binning, which I didn't even mention).  And my advice to makeover the townies was safe too.  Can't really go wrong with Inge's teleport bush.  And the DMA is even safer.


I know.  ;)

Actually, this thread greatly amused me for no less than 5 reasons:

1. It had a newbie who at first glance appeared to be of above-average intelligence (note the lack of horrific mangling of the English language in the first post), and yet turned out to be a BBS escapee after all.

2. It had another newbie, who definitely had a BBS aura around her, and who was apparently suicidal... that's really the only reason someone who doesn't seem to have ever downloaded a hack for the game before would want to go poking into the game files with one of Pescado's advanced tools.

3. At least one of the newbies was twirled around and given a shove in the general direction of a cliff.

4. It had high drama, punctuated by frequent use of multiple exclamation and question marks ("You didn't backup?!?") and CAPS LOCK freaking out.

5. It was the middle of the night, and I was hopped up on coffee and feeling very mean for some reason.


And of course Pescado pointing and laughing is always funny.




All that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who loses a neighborhood, because that truly sucks to have happen.

Theo:
Quote from: Solowren on 2007 March 05, 19:46:33

.....SHIT.

Um. Well my game crashed during the neighborhood load. And. Well.

This kind of sucks.

I had gotten about 1/5th of the way through deleting the Townies with Theo's tool when I saw JM's post, so I closed SimPE and tried to load the game. Uh.

...Dammit.

Four year old neighborhood up in flames!! D':

The tool deletes the sim character files immediately, but doesn't commit the neighborhood package unless you do it explicitly (clicking on the 'Save' button in T.A.T).
Since you didn't do the last step, the game still tries to load the SDSC resources but is unable to load the sim packages, which is an exception it can't cope with.
It may be a bit belated, but I will add this warning to the tool's description ;)

You may have a chance of getting the neighborhood to load, if you open the neighborhood again, and delete the SDSC resources of the sims you had deleted. Look for sim descriptions with 'Unknown', and delete them before committing your changes.


I must say the deletion of a sim from the database is so quirky and troublesome, that I only do it when I want to shrink the neighborhood 'weight'. On other cases, simple facial surgery is enough to give a new look to the townies.

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