Seasons is crashing
ZiggyDoodle:
I guess that's one benefit of dialup: I just shut down my a.v. and firewall before loading TS2.
Cons:
katenigma
There are several good "free" AV's out there. AVG (www.grisoft.com), AVAST (www.avast.com) and
Bitdefender(Which is the #1 ranked AV) www.bitdefender.com
I use Avast at the moment. Long as it doesn't annoy me too much and isn't a resource hog it gets to stay.
My huband has F Secure which was free with WIldblue (Satellite Internet provider)
I'm not concerned about winders.. it'll be ok, if not I'll install Linux and be done with it. Dual boot so I can play Sims and winders will never see the net. Just keep it around to play the SIms on.
ZiggyDoodle
I had dial up until December 2006. Reallllllly Slooooooooow dial up.No DSL or cable where I'm at so we bit the bullet and had Satellite installed. When I had it I killed the firewall and the AV also. I kill the AV when I'm playing Sims even now. ...Firewall no, have to kill the router to do that and my husband would freak.
Sleepycat:
Quote from: katenigma on 2007 March 09, 18:30:35
I got mad and uninstalled my AV yesterday. Between the router, Firefox, Thunderbird, and not being stupid, I'm safer than your average idiot WITH an AV. But even if you don't use IE, you need to keep windows updated with critical updates. You don't need to keep the service running, you just need to remember when it's the 2nd Tuesday of the month and do it by hand. There are 3 zillion holes in Windows that have nothing whatsoever to do with IE or OE.
(I am currently running a 30 day trial of Nod32, but if I'm not happy with that, I WILL run completely without an AV. I'm sick of them sucking up all my resources)
have you tried avast!, the free version works great http://www.avast.com/
I've been using it for years now.
KatEnigma:
I think I've tried all the free ones already, and had one problem or other. AVG doesn't play well with Eprompter, which I use to read my mail. It's text-only, and lets me delete things before they even touch my machine. Since it's also small, I let it run constantly, checking every 5 minutes. And I can't tell AVG to IGNORE it. >:( It used to lock up my old laptop completely. I figure if Steve Gibson, renowned security expert, can run without an AV, and says you can do so safely as long as you're not stupid, I can too. ;) I have high speed, but I don't care about turning it off while gaming, even, since I'm behind a router. The problem is that CERTAIN AV's turn themselves back on, even after you've turned them off (I watched McAfee do it!)
jrd:
Quote from: katenigma on 2007 March 09, 22:35:59
Steve Gibson, renowned security expert
Lol.
Gibson is certainly clever, but he has very little understanding of what security risks really are. He's pretty wacko, and unfortunately, so are most of his followers.
Remember the "raw sockets" and UPnP crusades?
Gibson is a very amusing read, but don't take him seriously.
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