This new furious state
Ancient Sim:
I think Maxis are sort of encouraging the furious state. Has anyone noticed that the visitors who make-up these group outings Sims get invited to are definitely not randomly-arranged?
I've had several that have clearly been deliberately arranged to cause maximum damage. one which I've mentioned earlier. I had two more of them yesterday. First of all a female Romance Sim was invited out by her secret lover and father of her equally secret lovechild, Adrian Lothario (son of Don). When she arrived, not only was Adrian there, also Don (who she fancies just as much but hasn't had a relationship with ... yet), Adrian's half-sister (OK so far) ... then we get Adrian's fiancee, another secret lover of Adrian's and a token guest who didn't seem to fit in anywhere (there is always at least one of those). Luckily, nothing untoward happened on this occasion.
I then went to the lot where my two vampires live and one of them was invited out, this time by a female friend of hers. When she arrived, the female friend was accompanied by Adrian Lothario again (yet another of his secret lovers), Don Lothario (also this girl's lover and father of her daughter), the girl's roommate (the girl's lover and also Don Lothario's lover, not to mention also the mother of his daughter), a townie who is in love with the roommate ... I think that's all the relevant ones. The inevitable happened and Don decided to goose the inviter's roommate. This trashes her relationship with her roommate and also with the townie. It also badly affects Don & Adrian's relationship and the only reason for that was because Adrian must have assumed Don was being unfaithful to Dina, who has been dead around 20 years. I exited out without saving so I could remove the "I am married to Dina" entry in SimPE (grrrrrrrrrrr at the stupidity of that).
Amyway, the point is these outings must be arranged deliberately to provoke this kind of thing, because there is no way they're random. OK, it keeps you on your toes, but without the Romance Mod it's a nightmare. A son falling out with his father because he pinched a woman on her bum two decades after his mother died?!
Brynne:
I agree, it is almost impossible to play romance sims with this new furious system, and lack of romance mod. I've had to resort to using the Insiminator to turn off lot jealousy, which I hate to do. But it's ridiculous that Joe and Brandi Broke's grown-up sons get furious with him when they see him flirting with his long-time wife. Joe and Brandi were never married to begin with, and...well, you know. I don't need to go into exactly how little sense it makes. I'm spending the whole game patching up relationships now.
skandelouslala:
Quote from: Ancient Sim on 2005 September 30, 15:44:31
I think Maxis are sort of encouraging the furious state. Has anyone noticed that the visitors who make-up these group outings Sims get invited to are definitely not randomly-arranged?
Ah yes..I noticed this quite soon after getting the game.
Logic would tell you not to bring 6 of your lovers together on a group outing, no?
When I first got the game one of my sims got one of those random calls "hey you wanna hang out downtown". It was her baby daddy lol so I figured why not.
Our subjects are Ricky..who has woohooed most of the current generation in the neighborhood but has been rather successful at keeping it all on the down low and Joy..who has done the same thing as Ricky..disaster waiting to happen.
They all arrive downtown and 8 sims climb out of the little junk car (hilarious in and of itself or maybe I just find it hilarious b/c it takes me back to my teenage years "Let's see how many people we can fit into a geo metro! ;) ) Anyways...Ricky and Joy get out...along with 6 of Ricky's lovers. Oh good lawd. Somebody decides to perform a romantic interaction and all hell breaks loose.
The love/crush thing has been pissing me off in general since installing NL.
YA and adult...heck even teent sims need a system where a little pink or red heart doesn't cause sim life altering anger. It makes taking your sim out on multiple dates with multiple sims almost pointless in a way.
Since this post is already long I'll elaborate on my pipe dream
Engaged/ married sims obviously get furious if they catch their partner cheating. Makes sense and works. But what about sims you just want to date around? There should be an option where they can commit to one or more sims (if they choose to commit to more than one the jealousy thing can still happen between those who are committed) If they aren't committed then other sims they are dating should not totally care if they see there date from last Friday on a date with somebody new this Friday...regardless of crush or love hearts in the relationship panel. To make it slightly more realistic the relationship could take a small hit..maybe 5 points or so but nothing more. Just like in real life scenerios if you have a crush on somebody it doesn't necessarily mean that you are exclusive to that person. Same with love...you can love somebody and ummm yeah they might not love you back. Crap happens. That's the short version of my vision lol To sum it up there needs to be more determining factors to a 'relationship' than those damned pink and red hearts.
And what is up with Bob catching Betty cheating with Joe...he walks up..smacks Betty around and is pissed at Joe as well..however the whole time Joe stands there and smiles..hell he might even wave at Bob...you were getting cheated on too dumbass. I know I'd be wondering if my man had random women running up to him smacking him whenever I kissed him in public.
sanmonroe:
Something really entertaining about the new furious state.
Have a vampire piss off another vampire, make them furious and enemies.
Then you get to see the enemy vampire show up 5 or 6 times during the day, sneak over to the trash can, paper, etc, burning with the sun, and scream "AHHH THE SUN!!" and run away.
That is an ANGRY vampire to come cross town during the day to steal your newspaper.
sonofajoiner:
One thing Ive never understood is why the sim who catches their love cheating is the one who has to apologise!
I'm quite liking the furious state though. I witnessed a hilarious (and quite inexplicable) series of violent fights between a virile young man and an elderly muslim lady that they chose to have whilst welcoming another sim family to the neighbourhood. The family moved out again shortly afterwards. :)
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