This new furious state

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Ancient Sim:
Here I am again, this time with a real poser.

I have this Romance Sim, Martha.  In her late teens she had her Very First WooHoo with another teen (quite a lot younger), namely Henry Broke, son of Robert Broke (the child Brandi was pregnant with at the start).  This was a casual woo-hoo courtesy of TwoJeffs' mod (they'd only just met) and they weren't friends at the end of it.  Martha went off to college and while there met and fell in love with Spankideli Broke, son of Dustin & Angela and cousin of Henry.  She had no contact whatsoever with Henry whilst at college.  When she left, she went back to her former home with Spankideli (her parents were both dead).  A short while later, while visiting the neighbourhood bordello, she woo-hooed with Henry again a couple of times  (still a teen but slightly older) on one of Lizzlove's woo-hoo beds, resulting in them falling in love.  She hasn't seen him or spoken to him again since.  After this point, I installed Nightlife.

Today, Spankideli took Martha out to dinner on an official date.  All was going very well (despite Mrs Crumplebottom's constant attempts to ruin things) when suddenly Vincent Broke appeared out of nowhere wanting to slap both Spankideli and Martha.  Vincent is Brandi's son to Vince Walter the headmaster, so is half-uncle if you like to Spankideli and Henry.  He had never met either of his nephews, nor Martha.  In the end, he and Spankideli had a fight, which unfortunately Spankideli lost (probably due to the Fight Mod, Spankideli was below average in fitness and hasn't a great number of body points).  Spankideli went from not knowing Vincent at all to being well in the minus against him and furious with him.  Vincent, on the other hand, isn't furious against Spankideli or Martha. 

I could only assume that Vincent was angry (or whatever he was) because he considered Martha & Spankideli were betraying Henry, but I checked in SimPE and he has no memories pertaining to any relationship between Martha & Henry.  The only memories he has of any of them are the usual telepathic ones of his nephews growing up well and so on.  There is absolutely no other connection between Vincent and these three that could possibly have caused this.

Apart from the fact that I am totally puzzled as to what the problem was (I do wish there was some way of finding out - it isn't jealousy, because there is a fight token "Don't mess with a love rival" or something and Spankideli doesn't have that, not that he is a rival anyway) there is also the ridiculous situation here of Vincent being angry at Spankideli, who had done nothing wrong!  Presumably the Romance Mod would ensure that in a situation like this, Vincent would only be angry with Martha, because it's ludicrous that he fought with Spankideli like that, especially as they're related.  In reality, he would have taken him to one side and said "Now, about your girlfriend ...". 

After they got home I changed Martha's aspiration to Popularity.  She's never really been a proper Romance Sim and has never woo-hooed with anyone else except at the bordello.  I also did this because Spankideli wants to get engaged and Martha got pregnant after their second woo-hoo in the photobooth (which Vincent was totally enraged about).  I am going to remove the hearts with Henry, which would never have been there anyway if I hadn't been using the Inteenimater.  As things stand now, there can't be a romantic relationship between Martha & Henry anymore so the hearts shouldn't be there.  It's silly anyway, Henry is still only 18 and Martha is 29.  Not sure if removing the hearts will make any difference if they meet-up with Vincent again, but hopefully it should. 

I do wish I knew more about what causes these furious feelings - well, not furious really as Vincent wasn't furious, I don't know what he was, defending Henry, I suppose.  The only furious ones were Spankideli & Martha.  I find it really hard to work this one out with Vincent not having any memories of anything between Martha & Henry.  I suppose it's down to them being stored somewhere inaccessible again, such as the objects.package file.  It's all very confusing.

J. M. Pescado:
I'm sure I'll get to dig into this when I finally get the game.

Brynne:
What is the "don't mess with a love rival" token for, anyone know?
I'm also having problems making sense of this whole furious thing. Simpe doesn't give any clues in the memory editor, as far as I can tell. But I have a lot of sims who have the red film over the portraits of others, and I can't trace it back to anything. Out of a pair of teen brothers, one is furious with his cousin (I guess for messing with his half-sister, who is dating another cousin-on his side, of course), but the other brother is fine with it. Both were witnesses to the event. Besides, the cousin didn't do anything wrong, anyway. The half-sister flirted with him, which is more of lack of romance mod issue. I'm constantly trying to patch these kinds of relationships up, and most of the time I  don't know what's wrong in the first place.

dizzy:
I think tokens are used to keep track of whether rivalry has been resolved somehow. So, a "don't mess with romantic rival" would probably keep track of when to stop doing romantic rival socials.

vecki:
I have no idea what can set off a furious state (aside from cheating - but even that doesn't seem consistent) and it's driving me nuts.

Kaylynn's son Kevin suddenly became furious at one of his triplet brothers - I forget which (at the time, all of Kaylynn's four boys were children) for no reason I could see.  In fact the only reason I knew Kevin was furious was that I had Gametips on at the time and it popped up to tell me that one of my sims was furious at the other.

All I know is that they were in the bathroom at the time, and I know Kevin is a neat freak so was wondering if sloppy sims making a mess could set off a neat sim?

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