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Inge:
I have seen a lot of people say you should install the patch for every XP you have, but I wonder what that is based upon? As I understand it, all fixes are incorporated into each successively released XP. How else would Maxis get the fixes out to people who don't use the internet to obtain support and software?
For the record I completely reinstalled my game with all released XPs to date, and *no* downloadable patches.
jrd:
It is based on Maxis comments:
Quote from: MaxoidMel
- I've installed Open For Business Only. You'll need the OFB patch
- I've installed Family Fun only. You'll need the Family Fun patch
- I've installed Open for Business and Family Fun. You’ll need to get both patches in order to get the full effect. It won’t hurt your game to install both. It doesn’t matter the order in which you install the patches.
And given that TS2 + expansions is layered, this makes sense. All XPs are essentially new game installs with their own code, which call back to earlier code whenever features from other XPs are needed (Stuff Packs are internally the last XP, so the same mostly applies).
An unpatched error in XP2 will propagate into XP3 and later until you patch it, or Maxis happens to change the game code in that later XP. You could probably skip Uni and NL patches as the game code was almost completely changed in OFB, but I wouldn't count on this. It doesn't hurt to install patches, so why not just do it?
As for every XP running only its own code, this is proven to be not the case. Remember the disappearing objects if only the FFS or only the OFB patch was installed?
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Jordi on 2006 September 24, 12:44:12
As for every XP running only its own code, this is proven to be not the case. Remember the disappearing objects if only the FFS or only the OFB patch was installed?
This is probably a datafile-access related issue. If the patch messes with some object bits to make it vanish if you don't have a specific XP, the object will spontaneously disappear. That's how Uni/NL objects in OFB+ are "switched off" for those who lack the relevant expansions.
cwykes:
re patching - we do know that not everything from the NL2 patch made it into OFB, so I'd go with putting every patch in as you go. DK if the put the "lost" bits in the OFB patch. With programming layered as described above, you need each layer to be the best it can be in case maxis call the bogged up bit.
J. M. Pescado:
That's because I think NLp2 was around the time of OFBp1. OFBp1 should be complete-NLp2. However, note that patching an old expansion is usually of no real benefit since the previous expansion is generally ignored, so all bad codes that were broken by OFB will remain broken even if you fix them in NL.
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