So what's been fixed in NL
Ancient Sim:
Quote from: rainbow on 2005 September 14, 22:19:38
Ancient Sim: LTWs were introduced in Uni and are therefore not present in the base game.
This is what I thought - I mentioned it earlier. In that case, what on earth is the problem with the Uni careers being included? Anyone without Uni won't get LTW's anyway so what on earth is wrong with including them?
Ness:
That is exactly what I was thinking...
unless the LTW will be included with nightlife, so you will now have LTWs, regardless of whether you have uni or not
Ness
Ancient Sim:
Oh, and about this piano thing. I have JM's fix for that, but before I had it, my Sim kids would come home from school and go straight to the piano, quite clearly to gain FUN. Why would they do that if the piano had no fun to offer? It must be advertising fun even if it isn't supplying it, which suggests it is meant to supply it. I had to stop them using it (thereby also stopping them gaining creativity) before they ended-up totally in the red.
RainbowTigress:
Quote from: Ancient Sim on 2005 September 15, 06:18:08
Quote from: rainbow on 2005 September 14, 22:19:38
Ancient Sim: LTWs were introduced in Uni and are therefore not present in the base game.
This is what I thought - I mentioned it earlier. In that case, what on earth is the problem with the Uni careers being included? Anyone without Uni won't get LTW's anyway so what on earth is wrong with including them?
I assume that he means that if you choose not to send your sims to college, they will be stuck with unfulfillable LTWs. But that wouldn't be anything new since we already have adults and elders stuck with unfulfillable LTWs. We can always reroll them or use SimPE to change them if we want, but if they were there, at least we'd have a chance of getting them. As it stands, all my sim teens have a horrible fear of being uneducated, so I always send them to college anyway.
syberspunk:
That's what I was sorta saying in my post, which it seems most everyone didn't bother to read. ;) Well, I tend to get longwinded, so that's my own fault. But anyways... I totally understand that supposed reason as to why they think it was bad to have teen sims stuck with unfulfillable LTWs, but that would just be a consequence on the player's part due to their decision of how they choose to play. So... if they opt to not send their sim to college, then they are doing so by their choice and thus denying the fulfillment of that sim's LTW. I totally even forgot about the situation where elders would end up with unfulfillable LTWs. Especially if they are CAS made elders, then those sims are totally screwed as well, since there would be no way for them to achieve career related LTWs since they can't get "real" jobs anyway. At least not without hacks. :P So yeah, that sort of just ends up contradicting the seemingly half-thought decisions that were made. Apparently it is ok to screw over elders, but not teens. :P
I personally think that, in the long run, it is better to have more options, especially to have LTWs that go with any new careers that will no doubt show up with each expansion pack. Again, as I was trying to say, if we only ever have LTWs related to the original careers in the base game, then there isn't as much incentive to ever play those other careers out. In fact, there wouldn't even be an incentive to go to Uni anyways for those sims who have career LTWs since doing so isn't required. I think having those Uni related career LTWs and supposedly there might be new careers in NL as well which should also have new related LTWs, it would just give further incentive to send sims to Uni so they can achieve those LTWs. Heck... I haven't even seen any regular wants to become Any of those new careers. I have seen wants to get a job in a certain career track before, but that has only been fairly rare on occassion, and so far limited to the already existing careers in the base game. Again, it would just be so much better and make more sense to have these other career related LTWs for more variety and gameplay incentive. And this goes hand in hand with having re-rollable LTWs at life changing events or Age Transitions. But meh, I'll stop ranting for now otherwise I'll just be a broken record. Hehe. ;D
I just don't know if I'll have the patience to wait for all my favorite global hacks to be updated and/or re-written or whatever. Especially having to wait for Pescado to get his copy. My Nightlife should be arriving tomorrow!!! I've been like constantly checking the tracking info at UPS. Hehe. Yeah, I'm that crazy. :P
Ste
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