Identical Twins
HRH Posie:
Tell me about it! Many a time I've had cute identical twin babies only for one to resemble Quasimodo when they transition to toddlers. Likewise, there doesn't seem to be a great deal of difference between genders during the baby stage. Some toddlers are so grotesque but a number do eventually ‘grow into' their face.
The twins in the picture are my first pair of truly identical looking twins. As you quite correctly mention, most twins will have at least one obvious difference. The usual difference for me is that one twin will have a longer face (or is that jaw?) than the other. In other cases I have twins with different colour eyes, skintone or completely different noses. I noticed when Miranda and Morgan were children that they looked alike but I was warned that the noses would be probably be different and this difference would become apparent during the teen years. One of the few aliens that I have had in the game would probably win the ugliest toddler award ;)
Kitiara:
Quote from: tiggerypum on 2005 July 19, 03:58:15
Those are the most identical looking twins I've seen. I've seen posts where people have said 'identical twins' where the eyebrows are visibily different, or some other feature, like eyes, or size of nose or mouth. My thought, dumb luck and maybe some of the features of the parents are similar (as expressed on a male or female face).
On the other hand, the sibs in most of my houses tend to carry whatever family resemblences pretty strongly, and tend to look a lot like each other - as they're not always in the same age at the same time, I can't tell how close, but as all the game born children have 3 parents (unless you turn that off) - the mom, the dad, and the 'average' face - it's not surprising that they look similar. That's also why most babies look almost identical to each other - to avoid dirt ugly babies the babies display mostly the maxis standard baby face. I have had a couple sims now that produce dirt ugly toddlers (they are okay as babies), the eyes come out looking bad, but as they age, they 'fix' themselves and look normal.
Is there a way to change that 'average' face? Please forgive me if I am asking a stupid question, but altering it to something that I like better could go a long way in countering that 'everyone looks the same and they are all ugly" problem I have with Maxis Sims. If this is stupid say so, if not any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks :-\
J. M. Pescado:
I'm not sure what is meant by the "average" face. There's a certain amount of "blending" that goes on to average out two faces that are very different in the parents, but there's no "smearing into the generic bland face" that goes on over time if you breed certain characteristics. If you didn't have this blending effect, you'd get some interesting facial deformities.
Ultimately, though, the reason that sims tend to look the same is because people tend to look the same.
tiggerypum:
I doubt I can track it down, but I remember a discussion with Maxis that did say that both that the features are blended, but also that they are... applied to some 'norm' that Maxis has for a head. And for the most part, they are not... shown, maybe is the right word... on newborns except for eyesize *sorta*. The applying of the facial features to *another* face also explains how some of my toddlers can look like they have a major deformity around the eyes, yet by the time they're adults they do not, because Maxis decreases the amount it blends with the 3rd head as they age.
Maybe another way to put it is that the characters have their facial characteristics, but they are expressed over the ages only by certain amounts, and there is a base head that the expressing is applied to. At least that was what was said during one conversation. Now I want to test ;)
J. M. Pescado:
I think the reason toddlers are deformed is simply because you're cramming the features of a full-sized head onto something much too small for it, so it gets a little warped. It simply appears that the game is poorly optimized to render toddlers, and that very little attention has been paid to them. This is pretty obvious when you notice that by default, there's no way to even change their hair, which is all the same, and that you don't exactly have a lot of choices even when you can. It is clear that toddlers are not really considered a high priority.
And babies are incapable of expressing any features other than eye, skin, and hair colors, and the latter, you have to look at their eyebrows pretty closely sometimes to tell the difference.
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