Problems with very weird wants
Anne:
Okay, my first post, because this has me completely and totally freaked out.
A while back, right before installing NL, I started a new neighborhood. (I did not use DeleteAllCharacters in doing so) I set up one family, and then installed NL. Right after installing NL, this family showed up with blank want slots. Blank as in just plain blue, that is.
The problem seemed to resolve itself pretty quickly, though, so I kept on building my new neighborhood. Installed OFB after it came out, no new problems. The blank wants would pop up once in a while on members of that original family, but again, it always resolved itself.
But... the other day I opened SimPE just to nose around, and I browsed through the SWAF files. I thought I was being careful. I didn't hit anything. All I thought I did was look.
But the next time I opened the game, every sim that I had looked at (and only those who's SWAF files I had looked at) had blank want slots, and all the uni graduates had reverted to four instead of six. I used TJ's college adjuster to restore the missing slots and the new slots were also blank. Each sim had maybe one want - to go on a date, something like that - and several blank slots.
And each one of them had a completely new LTW, which I used the FFS lot debugger to reroll back to the original.
The weirdest problem, however, popped up in my oldest sim, the first one I created, who is now an elder about 6 or 7 days away from kissing simlife goodbye. Her panel included wants for a sim she has never met to become an overachiever, and three fears of townies (who are not dead) becoming zombies. I sent her to sleep for several sim hours, I had her check out her husband, I even fulfilled one of her normal wants by getting her son engaged, nothing.
So what do I do? Is this a sign that my neighborhood on it's way to becoming a BFBVFS? Or will this weird problem resolve itself on it's own eventually?
I have no hacks, other than awesome ones (critical fixes and the lot debugger, and TJ's college adjuster) and the 'hood only has 353 sim character files in the folder.
I'm praying it's not a BFBVFS, because I am very attached to this neighborhood. And if I have to send Amelia (the elder sim with the wacky wants) to an early sim-grave, then I'll do it. She has already fulfilled two LTW's, she's permaplat, she can die happy.
J. M. Pescado:
I think you managed to corrupt your files. That qualifies as a BFBVFS.
ZephyrZodiac:
Are you using the latest edition of SimPE? Or possibly an older version that had errors? I know there was at least one edition that was corrected and replaced fairly rapidly, but if that was the one you were using before the trouble began to show, maybe that's what set it off.
Have you checked the number of SWAF files against the number of characters in your hood? If you have 353 character files, then you should have the same number of SWAF files. If that checks out ok, you could try deleting the SWAF for each character with the problem and hopefully they will generate a new and complete set of wants and fears when you reload the game. If you find you have a great deal more SWAF files than character files, look for any that have no owner, not even Unknown. Delete these. When you have done this, check and see if the numbers correlate, which hopefully they will.
Also check in Sim Relations for any relationships of unknown towards x, x towards unknown, or unknown towards unknown, and delete these from the list.
Pescado helped me to do this, as I was really having problems all due to deleting the half-dozen townie kids, so now I'm passing on what I hope is the advice I was given by him and a couple of others and which helped me save an even newer hood from a BFBVFS!
Anne:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 22, 04:30:37
I think you managed to corrupt your files. That qualifies as a BFBVFS.
Well, great. That's what I was afraid of. Good thing I made a backup several days before all this started.
Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 22, 06:08:04
Are you using the latest edition of SimPE? Or possibly an older version that had errors? I know there was at least one edition that was corrected and replaced fairly rapidly, but if that was the one you were using before the trouble began to show, maybe that's what set it off.
Have you checked the number of SWAF files against the number of characters in your hood? If you have 353 character files, then you should have the same number of SWAF files. If that checks out ok, you could try deleting the SWAF for each character with the problem and hopefully they will generate a new and complete set of wants and fears when you reload the game. If you find you have a great deal more SWAF files than character files, look for any that have no owner, not even Unknown. Delete these. When you have done this, check and see if the numbers correlate, which hopefully they will.
Also check in Sim Relations for any relationships of unknown towards x, x towards unknown, or unknown towards unknown, and delete these from the list.
Pescado helped me to do this, as I was really having problems all due to deleting the half-dozen townie kids, so now I'm passing on what I hope is the advice I was given by him and a couple of others and which helped me save an even newer hood from a BFBVFS!
Well, I took a look, and there were only 343 SWAF files listed, which is really odd. I went through all those relations, deleted the unknowns, and I tried deleting Amelia's SWAF file, but when I started the game up, nothing had changed. Which either means I did it wrong (entirely possible) or I managed to create one big huge ugly BFBVFS.
I created a backup before all this started happening, at least, which means that the neighborhood isn't a total loss. I was just hoping to avoid that, as several of my sims have had weddings and babies since I made that backup.
Oh, well.
J. M. Pescado:
Life is like a sandwich. Some days you eat the sandwich, other days the sandwich eats you.
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