Hurricane Katrina
ZephyrZodiac:
And unfortunately, ever since Her Ladyship the great Maggie T said that "There is no such thing as society", we've been going down that same road where "I'm all right, Jack and the Devil take the hindmost" is the order of the day! And anyone who tries to tell you that the Blair Government is any different, didn't live back when even the Tories cared about the Health Service!
Judecat:
Thank you for explaining. I think that the basic idea behind welfare is also assistance, but there seem to be many people who are content to have their hand out in this country. That's why I'm a supporter of the welfare to work idea. I think being in a capitalist country I missed the line where it stops being welfare and starts being assistance.
One of the young men who refused to be evacuated from Katrina said he didn't want to go to a shelter cos there he would have to follow someone's rules and he didn't want to follow no rules. I guess looking and stealing and living off your girlfriends welfare suited him better. Because if you work you gotta follow rules, and if you collect benefits there are supposed to be rules too.
To those who think that communism is a good idea that only failed in the soviet union because of capitalist greed, may I suggest you look at Viet nam today, and you will see the reason that I think that communism is rotten to the core. After 30 years of communism there is still no educational, medical,food distribution or sanitation infastructure. Childreach (formerly know as the foster parent plan) is operating in Hanoi just like they are in other 3rd world countries. What good does it do for all the workers to be equal when all off you are living in the dirt. The workers are no better off than they were 30 years ago. Hell back then even the Hanoi Hilton (POW camp) had plumbing.
DuckSpeak:
Though definitly not saying that communism is a good thing, it has it's positives. East Asian countries have been and still are awfully negative about women's rights. In Imperial China this was to the degree where baby girls would be sold as slaves or abandoned to die. Even though Chairman Mao of communist China was a degenerate money worshipping bastard he had to stand up for his party to a certain extent and that included the doctrine that all people are equal. Now that China has gone back to capitalization the old trends are coming back, though obviously in a supressed manner. (Since you can only have one child, there's more sexism in baby gender preferance. Idiots, now China has TONS of bachelors. ::))
The same goes with capitalism. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who got written by the book First Circle gets pointed out by the fact that the trend in 1950's Russia is to call capitalism "big moneyism". (Haha, bad joke, obviously not as awesome as Pescado's original. :) For in Soviet Russia book writes YOU, and fact points out YOU!) Capitalism is in essence "big moneyism", but that makes it sound so much worse. Just because a society "communizes" doesn't mean everyone gets 100% the same allowances.
Vietnam would probably have been no better off with Ngo Dinh Diem if it was subject to the same conditions as the Communists. After all, Diem was a ruthless religious fanatic as well as a corrupt bastard, while Ho Chi Minh was quite the more moderate of the communists:
Situation Reversed:
1) USA; a communist nation declares war on South Vietnam.
2) South Vietnam rallies on the anti-colonial spirit to defeat the Northern communists and the USA Army.
3) United Capitalistic/Oligarchial Vietnam starts killing all communists and continues to persecute Buddhists.
(This is the real problem, after a war the people are bound to be swept by hatred.)
(Just an interesting, albeit useless fact: North Korea has the purest language system on earth, as it is untainted by "foreign" influences and apart from using a alphabet, it is phonetic language which means you cannot spell it wrong unless you are a SHEEP! Not that it matters, sheep that TyPe lYk d1S are destroyed. Plus, it has one of the highest literacy rates in the world.)
Welfare is a gimped idea in that some people work out of nothing to build fortunes while others continue their repulsive journey down poverty. The full solution involves heavy mental tampering to blast into the heads of the people recieving welfare as well as their children that they MUST live a life of significance and conscience! ;) Putting all the political issues about it aside, did not Israel grow into a prosperous economy out of virtually nothing? Is not the kibbutz in essence a communistic/socialisitc organization? With the proper background socialism has worked and in FAR more awesome ways than the good ole USA with far more unfortunate geographies and histories. The Scandinavian countries are a shining example of that.
Canada is regarded as a moderate/democratic socialist country, as my teachers often attest.
SJActress:
Someone may have posted this already, but I thought it would cheer some people up. Well, at least MOST of us!
Cheers,
SJ
DuckSpeak:
LOL, nice one. Though apparantly true... ;)
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