Building/Upgrading a PC for TS2

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jolrei:
Quote from: veilchen on 2007 November 05, 16:33:55

Thank you, Zazazu. So even if I order the 2.4 processor, I still would have problems then. I never really understood the dual vs. other core thing. I don't know if that would make a difference. I know that desk-top PC's have single and dual core processors, and someone told me that a single core processor, like the old celerons have, is completely useless for the newer games.

As far as I know, TS2 does not know what to do with dual core.  I have 3Gig dual and it runs fine, but I don't think it's using the full capacity of the processor.  I could be wrong - there's a thread around somewhere (in Podium?) on using dual core with the Sims and getting optimal performance.

Quote from: veilchen on 2007 November 05, 16:33:55

Plus, it would come with Vista, which I heard is an enormous system hog all on its own. If it has problems with Oblivion, I guess I could kiss any plans for NWN2 goodbye. The sims, as big as it is, seems to have the least problems with lower end processors. 

If you have XP disks, you could wipe the laptop when you get it and reload with XP.  Probably a good idea to wipe and reload anyway, to avoid any pre-installed spyware that the store/manufacturer might load.  That way you get only what you want on the HD (and lurking in your registry).  Auf nimmermehr wiederschauen, Vista!

Why does this store have ATI video cards on all the AMD machines, but only NVIDIA on the Intel ones?  Why can't I choose, dammit?!  I'm with Zazazu on the processor - get bigger processor if you can, but I want to choose other components.  This store annoys me.

veilchen:
Thanks, Jolrei. I'm guessing ATI cards are better than Nvidia then? Yeah I know, I'm a Dummkopf as far as techie-knowledge goes.

That store is the about the only one that has what I minimally need, at the price I can afford, unfortunately. I've searched quite a bit, but no one else came even close to those two essentials. I would so love to have a few extra thousands stashed in my change purse, but alas, I'm but a poor post-degree student who makes a wee bit of money as a TA. Post-degree students don't qualify for aid, so loans it is, damn it.

I have a friend with a $3500 laptop. Oh the envy.





jolrei:
Quote from: veilchen on 2007 November 05, 18:12:16

Thanks, Jolrei. I'm guessing ATI cards are better than Nvidia then? 


It just seems that, where TS2 is involved, especially since BV came out, that a lot more graphical problems seem to be associated with Nvidia cards than with the ATI Radeon ones.  I would check specs to make sure that whatever card you get is compatible with TS2 if you go with the Nvidia.  Chances are that the card included with this system would be fine, but you'd hate to just get it and find problems later, is my thought.

No "dummkopf-ness" implied.  :)

veilchen:
Well, it's a good thought. Especially because a laptop video card can't be replaced easily. Or so I've heard from frustrated friends.

I guess the larger processor it is then. I have little choice with the card, the other laptops are just too expensive. Maybe I'll just nag, cajole, bribe, etc. my relative into installing Oblivion on hers and see if it runs. But I'll cruise around the net first to see if I can get the one I pin-pointed with an ATI card. The more choices, the better, I agree on that one.

Edited: because I forgot to ask what the difference between home xp (which I had) and professional xp is. Any huge differences there? The company will load up xp instead of vista, but professional costs about $50 more.

jsalemi:
I tried Oblivion on my Dell laptop -- it has a 2.8Ghz processor, 1Gb RAM and an ATI Mobile Radeon X300.  It was pretty unplayable. (In fact, it's pretty much unplayable on my desktop with a 3Ghz processor and 2Gb RAM. I've given up on it.)

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