Building/Upgrading a PC for TS2

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blubug:
I see, anyway, I was just explaining my own Sims experience. And I would also like some more RAM to go with my downloads :) No fries with that please. (just fooling around)

KatEnigma:
Quote from: blubug on 2007 January 24, 14:49:09

@ katenigma: Thanks for your comments, I'm being more drawn to this laptop than I was before. But having never owned a notebook, and not too computer savvy, so I apologise if this sounds too dumb.(I've been reading a lot on computer stupidities)

 I still don't quite understand; when I said onboard, I meant; does it share the memory (the RAM), because that reduces my memory, right? And that's not so great, right?

Because when I built my own pc, I did most of the stuff myself. I wandered in forums, took advice from friends, etc. Bought the parts and knew that a pc with an onboard standard card gives crappy graphics, so I got  a good nvidia card I could afford and attached it myself. Not being a very musical person I didn't bother with the sound card.

So I'm just having trouble expressing myself here, hope it's clear.
And about vista, can't I uninstall that and install it again later? Because I need more than a week to make a decision :) Hehe. I guess I'm scared by the muck-ups of XP (Same with the sims :D) too much to trust something the week it comes out. I have to adjust mentally.


I haven't looked up that specific card, but it probably does share some of the memory with the system. The one on my laptop, for instance, has some RAM of its own, but it also is configured to use some of the system RAM. It basically has to be set up that way, because the space inside of a laptop doesn't allow for a separate video card with its own massive amounts of RAM.  You can't judge a laptop using the same standards as you do a desktop, because the laptop will always come up short in that case. It's just the limitations of being a laptop.  :) Besides, onboard graphics does NOT automatically mean "crappy."  Two years ago, when TS2 came out, it required a top of the line video card. Top of the line two years ago= about what you can find in a good laptop today. My ATI 200M is a much less powerful card than the 7200 Go, and TS2 honestly looks beautiful on it- almost as good as on my desktop where I have the Radeon x850. It could use to be a little faster, but I have a sucky Sempron processor and only 1 GB RAM because I didn't buy it to play Sims on primarily, that's what I have the desktop for.   :D And once again, it comes down to the differences between a desktop and a laptop. The onboard cards they put on motherboards for a desktop are nowhere near as good as that onboard card on the laptop. I know it's a lot of money to spend all at once on something, but that laptop would be good enough to last you for 2-3 years, which is all you can really expect from laptops, since you can't really upgrade them.

As for Vista....it starts shipping the 31st. If you have an extra XP disk lying about or go out and buy one, you'll be able to uninstall Vista and install XP. Installing again later depends on whether HP sends you the installation disk or not.  :-\ Which is why, now, I'd much rather have a voucher so I could send away for the disk to install later, than to have it come pre-installed with Vista.

blubug:
katenigma, thank you again for the very helpful information. I guess I did compare a laptop to a desktop, in standard features, and missed the whole point that a laptop is a computer you can carry around! So while it has some disadvantages to a desktop pc, it doesn't really matter coz I'll have both, and I'll be able to take one wherever I go). What one can't do, the other will, basically.

I assumed crappy graphics because my previous video card wasn't too good (pc), and I did get lots of game glitches and none of the top-end effects. But now that you say it's not the same thing in laptops, I get it, and anyway, that graphics card 7200 and 256memory, it's wayyy better than my old card, maybe even better than the one I have now (I have a Geforce 6600GT).

Anyway, more RAM is more important for me, as I tend to hog the game with downloads, and I've had a great experience since I upped the pc from 512MB to 1.5GB. So 2 is even better!

And Vista, well I'll try it for a while if my laptop comes with it. (but it says Windows XP media center installed. I'll ask about it) ;D

fionghuala:
I'm getting ready to purchase a new computer, i found a great deal. But I'm lost on the video card. It comes with
ATI RADEON X1950 XTX.   This computer is a good 1000 less than i would pay if i spec'd it out myself. But I'm totally unfamilar with this particular card. So I'm a little hesitant to jump on it.
Has anyone used this one for sims 2? And if so how are your graphics? I would rather wait if this one doesn't work than get a bad card for the game.

ZiggyDoodle:
That happens to be a superlative video card.  Jump.

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