Factoids and Statistics on Skill Gaining
J. M. Pescado:
Same, unless you get the variational version from Crammyboy.
cwykes:
How do the skill gains from the following things compare with the objects in your list?
cooking meals
cleaning things
unclogging toilets
repairing anything
doing the crossword
If I want a sim to learn cleaning, I tend to have them don the helmet and set them to clean every counter, cooker and bathroom in the house finishing with reading a book from the bookcase. Am I better off heading straight for the bookcase and hiring a maid?
Your list says write a novel is always 150 - it seems a little odd that it isn't faster on the more expensive computer - Maxis normally set it up that way.
I also noticed something amusing with tutors on career objects - if Sim A has 3 skill points say, they can tutor SimB with 2 points and the session keeps going even if SimB progresses above 3 points. Then you can turn it round and have Sim B tutor Sim A!
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: cwykes on 2006 February 12, 18:00:32
How do the skill gains from the following things compare with the objects in your list?
cooking meals
cleaning things
unclogging toilets
repairing anything
Hands-on material appears to be basic rate, 100.
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doing the crossword
I have not looked at the crossword, but I know it isn't high, certainly not above 200, and the crossword is completed so quickly that you'll be lucky if you manage to actually gain a point from it. Since there is not an unlimited source of readily-available newspapers one can do crosswords out of, this tends to be an extremely limited-use interaction.
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If I want a sim to learn cleaning, I tend to have them don the helmet and set them to clean every counter, cooker and bathroom in the house finishing with reading a book from the bookcase. Am I better off heading straight for the bookcase and hiring a maid?
Yes. Cleaning tends to be a high waste of thinking cap time because a lot of the time you spend on "cleaning" is not even cleaning time, it's handshaking time. PLUS, the rate for cleaning is poor, at only 100, the base rate..
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Your list says write a novel is always 150 - it seems a little odd that it isn't faster on the more expensive computer - Maxis normally set it up that way.
The computer is primarily seen to be a "Fun" object and all other functions appear to be secondary. As such, the code for all of it is contained in the semiglobals and does not vary from computer to computer.
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I also noticed something amusing with tutors on career objects - if Sim A has 3 skill points say, they can tutor SimB with 2 points and the session keeps going even if SimB progresses above 3 points. Then you can turn it round and have Sim B tutor Sim A!
That has a lot to do with the granularity of the checking: Some objects will check every skillpoint, others will only check at the initiation of the teaching and does not recheck until the interaction ends.
cwykes:
When sims are broke, the crossword is about the only way to gain logic points, so I use it. As you say it takes a few days to get a logic point from it even with a helmet, but it fills in a short gap while a visitor arrives or the bus/taxi comes. If you ever look at it, you might as well add the stats for completeness..
Thanks for the info - It seems kind of backward to me that reading about something helps them learn better than actually doing it - we're talking cleaning here not nuclear physics. My sims obviously need to head straight for the learning objects and hire the help! I have to say I like to make them do chores and really earn that skill the hard way! I guess I also avoid hiring NPCs because the memory of NPC slowdown bug lives on!
RainbowTigress:
I don't use the maid or gardener anymore because with Macrotastics Clean and Garden, my sims run around cleaning everything in record time. Wish I had something like that in real life! Now with TJ's Always Perfect Plants hack, I don't have to worry about gardening either, or having to have my flowers and shrubs positioned just the right way so the gardener or my sims can care for them.
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