Factoids and Statistics on Skill Gaining
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: jenwarren on 2005 July 26, 13:25:59
I have noticed that learning seems to slow down with each age transition so that toddlers and children learn faster than teens and adults, and teens learn faster than adults. And it's not that the last few points are harder to get, as CAS adults learn slower than their teens and children. But I read sometime ago (I don't recall the source, but I remember it being someone fairly reputable) that children do not learn any faster than adults.
That was me, I said that. There is no learning rate adjustment by age: All age categories increase skills at the same rate, although the object used to learn skills, as well as bonus effects like Thinking Caps and Smart Milk, as well as being taught, influence this. Toddler objects have insuperior learning rates to standard objects. The rates are as listed above. The age-learning-rate myth is debunked in the Mythology section.
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Am I imagining things, or is this a result of one or more uses of smart milk as a toddler? I currently have a teen who is an absolute genius...he had logic and creativity at 8 and a handful of other points, including 2 body points, by the time he became a teen. He earns skill points extremely fast. He only got smart milk once as a toddler (I forgot to buy the thing for a long time).
That's not quite what I'd call "absolute genius". In fact, by my standards, that qualifies as "mentally retarded". Smart milk does have a bleedover effect as an obscure bug that may manifest itself, however: The Smart Milking will stick, setting SemiAttribute 0x1C to 200, meaning your sim has a +200% learning rate (300%). This is erased if you wear a thinking cap or are reinstanced (such as by deletion or moving). It is cumulative with the +100% boost for an instructor on a career object. One smart milking is often all it takes to result in being "stuck" like that, and subsequent feedings of smart milk, much like showering again when you still have green smoke coming out of you, can possibly erase this. Both the Automated Baby Controller(with Always Smart Milk OFF - Default & Recommended!) and Skillinator are programmed to detect this "stuck" condition and avoid overwriting it by feeding unnecessary extra smart milk or wearing a thinking cap. If you are using these objects and your sim avoids thinking caps or smart milks, this is why.
JenW:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 26, 13:38:18
That was me, I said that. There is no learning rate adjustment by age: All age categories increase skills at the same rate, although the object used to learn skills, as well as bonus effects like Thinking Caps and Smart Milk, as well as being taught, influence this. Toddler objects have insuperior learning rates to standard objects. The rates are as listed above. The age-learning-rate myth is debunked in the Mythology section.
Figures it was you :P Actually, I thought it might have been you. I did look over the rates, but I'm mathmatically challenged and my brain shut down and my eyes glazed over after a few lines. I saw the myth entry after I posted this, but I'd probably still have annoyed you with the question anyway.
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That's not quite what I'd call "absolute genius". In fact, by my standards, that qualifies as "mentally retarded". Smart milk does have a bleedover effect as an obscure bug that may manifest itself, however: The Smart Milking will stick, setting SemiAttribute 0x1C to 200, meaning your sim has a +200% learning rate (300%). This is erased if you wear a thinking cap or are reinstanced (such as by deletion or moving). It is cumulative with the +100% boost for an instructor on a career object. One smart milking is often all it takes to result in being "stuck" like that, and subsequent feedings of smart milk, much like showering again when you still have green smoke coming out of you, can possibly erase this. Both the Automated Baby Controller(with Always Smart Milk OFF - Default & Recommended!) and Skillinator are programmed to detect this "stuck" condition and avoid overwriting it by feeding unnecessary extra smart milk or wearing a thinking cap. If you are using these objects and your sim avoids thinking caps or smart milks, this is why.
Well, I guess either my other Sims are usually morons or I don't drive them as hard as you ;) Plus I don't use any skill hacks/mods/whatever and have only recently been using the career rewards. I didn't know about the thinking cap (not that I use it much anymore anyway), I'll be sure not to use it on him.
Jen
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: jenwarren on 2005 July 26, 14:01:21
Well, I guess either my other Sims are usually morons or I don't drive them as hard as you ;) Plus I don't use any skill hacks/mods/whatever and have only recently been using the career rewards. I didn't know about the thinking cap (not that I use it much anymore anyway), I'll be sure not to use it on him.
I don't use any skill hacks/mods/whatever either. I have, however, turned slave driving into a mechanically precise, automated artform. :)
DaveFlew:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado
That's not quite what I'd call "absolute genius". In fact, by my standards, that qualifies as "mentally retarded".
Quote from: jenwarren
Well, I guess either my other Sims are usually morons or I don't drive them as hard as you
Jen, don't feel bad - one thing I've learned is that the more you play TS2, the better you get at essential tasks like building skills. You start to realise more and more that you need to get your younger Sims to focus on skill-building. The availability of University scholarships for Level 8 skills has given added importance to skill-building for youngsters. Because of this, I expect most future generations of my raised-from-birth Sims will max out all skills before reaching Adulthood.
RainbowTigress:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 26, 13:38:18
The Smart Milking will stick, setting SemiAttribute 0x1C to 200, meaning your sim has a +200% learning rate (300%). This is erased if you wear a thinking cap or are reinstanced (such as by deletion or moving). It is cumulative with the +100% boost for an instructor on a career object.
Where is this SemiAttribute stored? Can it be changed manually?
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