Apologizing interaction working backwards
MaxisManiac:
It seems that the "Apologize" option in Sims 2 is not working correctly. If I recall, back in an E3 video, they demonstrated how Sim A cheats on Sim B, so Sim A apologizes to Sim B. However...
Mortimer finds Dina cheating on him with Don, so now Mortimer hates Dina. But, Mortimer is the only one who can apologize. This makes no sense at all, especially since he did nothing wrong. Is there a fix for this? Forgive me if there already is, but if there isn't, then could you make it so that if Sim A is hated by another Sim, Sim A can apologize to Sim B? This way, the cheater (Dina) can apologize to the cheated-on (Mortimer), because Dina won't lose relationship points after the affair, and if she does, it will be from the slap afterwards, but she still cannot apologize.
ALSO, it seems this whole Gossiping thing isn't very well made. Is it possible for certain key memories to be gossiped about? Like, giving each gossipable memory a certain level of importance? This way, Alexander can tell Cassandra about the affair he witnessed between Don and Dina, instead of telling her each time that Mary-Sue burnt some pancakes.
Bane~Child:
The way I see it is that Mortimer was the one who initiated the 'hate' action, which supersedes the 'cheating' and may be the last interaction that matters. He would not be forgiving Dina for cheating, but for being hateful towards her. Have you noticed if Don has the apologize action available in favor of Mortimer, for his part in the affair?
I don't know about the gossip thing, as I don't deliberately queue my Sims to do this.
gillies:
Bad memories seem to be used for gossip as opposed to nothing (just the face of someone they know will be in the bubble, followed by no bubble, then the same face again) which is what they seem to use the rest of the time - affairs are always good memories which might be why they never gossip about them.
Bane~Child:
Quote from: gillies on 2005 August 21, 07:47:59
On the few times I have seen Sims autonomously gossip, I have seen the subject Sim in the thought bubble, but it seems more random than just good vs bad memories. The Sims at the center of the gossip aren't particularly gossip worthy, except that they happen to be in the presence of the two doing the gossiping. This also could be because it is the 'nothing' that you mentioned and is the subsequent default in the absence of a bad memory as you say. In any case, gossiping is used as a means of relationship building.
laeshanin:
I use the gossip interaction as a way of building relationships really quickly if the sim is a friend of the other, as it saves time. All that chatting...dull.
The apologise stuff has always irritated me as it seems to be the wrong way round and it's the sim that hasn't done a damn thing who has to do the apologising. ??? In real life the only apology a cheating scumbag would get from me is a swift kick to the danglies. Now that would be a great hack! ;D
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