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veilchen:
Quote from: breyerii on 2005 August 14, 23:43:22

Well, you know, Romans were better on land battles. They resorted to naval warfare only because the Carthaginians were such a thorn in their side.

Notice that they invented the rostrum to be more "on their own ground" even at sea.


True, it took three tries for the mighty roman legions to burn and raze Catharge. It was however, a mighty army; unfortunately, the in-house discontent that led to the decline of the western empire was even too much for them to overcome.

How is it going breyerii? My sister just told me that she and her family are driving down to Meran for a week, the terrible wench. If you come across a short blonde with the name of Kerstin, smack her upside the head from me :D

breyerii:
It is arguable whether the Romans tried to raze Carthage all three times. Vernichtungkrieg (=war of annihilation) is quite a modern concept after all.

And the western Empire lasted centuries; more, the legacy will go on as long as history will be studied.

I promise you, I'll keep a strict watch on any group of German tourists I come across.  ;)

ZephyrZodiac:
The Romans didn't do so well against hordes of vandals and goths either!  They seemed to need a structured battle plan, and if they didn't get it, they were unable to deal with the consequences.

breyerii:
Well, their overall record marks their army as one of the most successful of all times anyway. Implosive forces were by the time of the fall of the empire enormous, and the army itself mostly composed of mercenaries, often from barbarian tribes themselves.

I agree that Roman mentality wasn't - isn't - known for flexibility.

veilchen:
Quote from: breyerii on 2005 August 15, 02:17:14

I agree that Roman mentality wasn't - isn't - known for flexibility.


Bully you say :D
I happen to like their descendants very much, and even though they are not the most flexible, they are certainly the most giving and friendly people I've come across. You're talking about my favorite vacation country, so be careful (even if you are one of them :D)

Even if they didn't try to raze and burn Catharge all three times, by the time they finally got around to it, I'm sure they were more than willing to do it twice over. The Goths' were actually pretty patient with the Romans until they reached a breaking point. Proving that you can't supress anyone in perpetuity without repercussions. Good ol' Spartacus should have taught the ancient word at least that much.

Thanks for keeping watch breyerii, I wish I could join you.

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