Bathroom Controller: In Soviet Russia, Bathroom Uses You!
Magicmoon:
I pinpointed it and it was definately the Romance mod. It even crashes a completely vanilla game.
I just downloaded the new one from the Index. Thank you.
jsalemi:
I noticed some oddities in the new version of this when I was playing last night. First, it didn't kick a kid out of the bathroom when she autonomously went in to play in the tub -- prior versions used to do that. I didn't have any neat sims try to go in and autonomously clean the tub this time, so I don't know if that kick-out function is still working.
It also seemed to have some problems with multi-stall bathrooms. I was playing a dorm, and even though there's a controller in each stall and the showers are in the same room (it was the 9 room one level u-shaped dorm), it sometimes wouldn't let more than one sim into the bathroom at a time. From what I could observe, it always kicked other sims out of the bathroom and made them wait when one sim went to take a shower. If a sim was on the toilet, it usually let another sim in to use the other stall.
I'll be playing a different dorm later today with a similar setup, so I'll check to see if the pattern holds.
Magicmoon:
Quote from: jsalemi on 2006 August 24, 12:55:50
I noticed some oddities in the new version of this when I was playing last night. First, it didn't kick a kid out of the bathroom when she autonomously went in to play in the tub -- prior versions used to do that. I didn't have any neat sims try to go in and autonomously clean the tub this time, so I don't know if that kick-out function is still working.
Kids have always (since I've been using BUY) been able to clean in the BR without being kicked, although adults were always kicked for trying to clean. I haven't seen much autonomous playing with bathtubs lately, but usually the kids get by with that too. But I actually like that. In fact, I would rather adults didn't get kicked for cleaning either because when they get kicked, they keep going back in there over and over trying to clean, until I tell them to do something else. But I play the mod the way it comes so allowing kids to clean is a nice compromise. (I didn't have any autonomous cleaning yesterday either so I don't know how that is going.)
Quote from: jsalemi on 2006 August 24, 12:55:50
It also seemed to have some problems with multi-stall bathrooms.
...it sometimes wouldn't let more than one sim into the bathroom at a time.
I saw that in several houses yesterday. I was tracking down a different problem, so didn't worry too much. I have No Privacy bathroom and use one BUY controller for every toilet/shower duo. So far this has worked great for me. But yesterday only one sim was being controlled in the bathroom at a time and the others were made to wait outside the door even though there were plenty of available facilities in the bathroom.
jsalemi:
Well, up until last night I never had a kid successfully play in the tub on their own -- they've always been kicked out (it of course worked if you directed them to do it). And I have been using BUY since I discovered this place in January. I don't mind it, actually, though I see where it could be a problem in a house that only has one bathroom. But if it interferes with other sims using the bathroom, then I can continue to live without it as an autonomous behavior, and send them off to kick stuff instead.
But I have seen the 'get stuck in loop trying to clean' behavior before. Though I would like to see neat sims satisfy their OCD, I usually just put them on macro/clean when they get into that loop, and everyone is happy. :)
Update: Tried replacing the BUY controllers in the dorm bathrooms, and it didn't have any effect. As long as one sim is taking a shower, other sims get kicked out and forced to wait.
RainbowTigress:
Previously, I've seen high neatness kids be able to go in and clean the bathtub without getting kicked out while older sims would get kicked out if they attempted this. Perhaps this is because children aren't allowed to macro clean? Hopefully Pescado can shed some light on this.
I use TJ's no playing in bathtub mod, so I don't ever see that behavior.
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