Bathroom Controller: In Soviet Russia, Bathroom Uses You!
RainbowTigress:
JM doesn't believe in lazy sims.
syberspunk:
I sorta have a request/complaint. It seems like before, BUY would always kick out any sims that were loitering in the bathroom if they weren't ready to be used. This is sort of a mixed bag. It's great for automated processing... but on the other hand, if my uber neat sims want to autonomously clean anything inside there, they always get kicked out.
Now, I didn't care so much because I figured it was sort of a cut and dried situation. So I'd rather everyone get kicked out and if I wanted them to clean things, I'd do it via macro../clean or just queue them up manually. However... now I am finding that dormies are often falling asleep in the bathroom and they aren't being kicked out.
Is there anyway to:
a) kick out dormies from bathrooms so they don't fall asleep standing in the shower or blocking the terlets? I know I could probably easily install radios, but still, that means i have to do it for each bathroom on every lot and bleh. :P
I usually find this amusing... but I ended up with a deadlock situation where, I would manually queue up my sim to shoo the sleeping dormie away. But BUYstomps over that queue, trying to use them. Well... the dormie is standing in front of the damned terlet, preventing them from being used. So I pause, cancel BUY, try to shoo, wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseum. ::) I know I could just make them run over to some other bathroom. But then, there is still the deadlock when BUY tries to use a different dormie, and now the dormie is stuck standing around while the other dormie sleeps standing up blocking the terlet.
b) if it is possible to control when BUY stompinates commands, then can you make it
1. NOT stomp trying to shoo other sims out
2. NOT stomp sims who autonomously want to clean terlets and bathtubs?
Just a thought. I know these things can be fixed manually by directing sims to do other stuff and what not or just buying radios and whatever, but bleh I don't really want to have to buy radios for all my damned bathrooms or keep an eye out for sleeping sims who block terlets causing a deadlock situation like this. :P
Ste
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: syberspunk on 2006 July 31, 04:33:13
Now, I didn't care so much because I figured it was sort of a cut and dried situation. So I'd rather everyone get kicked out and if I wanted them to clean things, I'd do it via macro../clean or just queue them up manually. However... now I am finding that dormies are often falling asleep in the bathroom and they aren't being kicked out.
Sims that try to randomly clean up the bathroom are conducting an unregistered blockade of the docking port which causes things to break down if someone needs to use that docking port. Thus they are not allowed to be in there. There is actually registered cleanup facility for the bathroom that is used by BRY maintenance workers.
Quote from: syberspunk on 2006 July 31, 04:33:13
a) kick out dormies from bathrooms so they don't fall asleep standing in the shower or blocking the terlets? I know I could probably easily install radios, but still, that means i have to do it for each bathroom on every lot and bleh. :P
Dormies are expelled from bathrooms, but motive failure invariably stomps all queues. If you have a regular parade of dormies passing out in your bathroom, consider the installation of bathroom music to insure that people cannot pass out there and become unresponsive to commands. Installing an anti-sleep aid will prevent sims from blockading the bathrooms to sleep in them.
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I usually find this amusing... but I ended up with a deadlock situation where, I would manually queue up my sim to shoo the sleeping dormie away.
Use "Call Over" from the outside, Shoo is unreliable and does not always break the target out of actions.
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Just a thought. I know these things can be fixed manually by directing sims to do other stuff and what not or just buying radios and whatever, but bleh I don't really want to have to buy radios for all my damned bathrooms or keep an eye out for sleeping sims who block terlets causing a deadlock situation like this. :P
Since dormies can't really be controlled and don't intelligently manage their motives, it is no more possible to keep them from passing out whenever they please than it is to keep them from pissing themselves all over the floor in spite of the presence of multiple bathrooms with automated processing. The only way to stop dormies from doing things in places that you don't want them to is to make the activity impossible. See: Radios in bathrooms. I suppose I could add a silent "wake all in room" pulse to prevent sims from sleeping in bathrooms, though.
RainbowTigress:
Quote from: syberspunk on 2006 July 31, 04:33:13
2. NOT stomp sims who autonomously want to clean terlets and bathtubs?
I would like to see this as well. I also had trouble even manually directing sims to clean the tub when using the APO set to deny Pass Through.
syberspunk:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 31, 05:30:53
Sims that try to randomly clean up the bathroom are conducting an unregistered blockade of the docking port which causes things to break down if someone needs to use that docking port. Thus they are not allowed to be in there. There is actually registered cleanup facility for the bathroom that is used by BRY maintenance workers.
But for those of us who don't use no privacy mods, it seems like sims who get called in to be used will shoo all other sims away. Maybe you can enable it for bathtubs at least, since BUY always pushes the terlet first. So any other sims in the bathroom won't block the first 'docking port' and will get shooed away when a sim is summoned by BUY.
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 31, 05:30:53
Dormies are expelled from bathrooms, but motive failure invariably stomps all queues. If you have a regular parade of dormies passing out in your bathroom, consider the installation of bathroom music to insure that people cannot pass out there and become unresponsive to commands. Installing an anti-sleep aid will prevent sims from blockading the bathrooms to sleep in them.
Yeah, I figured that I could do that, I'm just lazy about doin it. I guess I'll have to include that in my pre-prep dorm renovations when I install BUY and rearrange the bathrooms for better processing.
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 31, 05:30:53
Use "Call Over" from the outside, Shoo is unreliable and does not always break the target out of actions.
Ahh... but see, if the dormie is asleep, there are no Call Over interactions available. Just shoo, which they won't respond to. :P
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 31, 05:30:53
I suppose I could add a silent "wake all in room" pulse to prevent sims from sleeping in bathrooms, though.
That might be a cool idea, to have the pulse built into BUY so we don't have to always remember to equip dorm bathrooms with anti-sleep deterrents. That would be even more awesome. ;D
Ste
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