Bathroom Controller: In Soviet Russia, Bathroom Uses You!

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syberspunk:
Quote from: jsalemi on 2006 June 08, 12:59:32

Yea, but this is very recent behavior where it's so dominant its obvious.  In the past, sims with nothing in their queue would do other autonomous things like listen to their mp3 players, go eat, or do some skilling task using an object that's closer to them than the bathroom (i.e., telescope, chess board) -- anything but  run to the bathroom with nearly full bladders and high hygene scores.  I do play with free will on, but I also make sure to turn Power Idle on for every sim so they do something generally useful if I'm tied up elsewhere.


I've noticed and mentioned this too in chat. It happens quite often in this dorm that I am playing. I notice it more frequently with my playable sims, that if they are just standing around, even if their bladder gauge has a little red (I'm saying that instead of full, because it gets confusing whether you mean the gauge is full or their bladder is full. I would think that they are opposite - if the gauge is full, it is green and their bladder is empty. If the gauge is depleted, it is all red and their is bladder is full and needs to be emptied :P) they will immediately run off to the bathroom.

I don't know if there is some attraction to try and futz with the bathroom controller itself? But I don't think its because my sims suddenly developed an obsession with the objects in the bathroom. I am pretty sure this behaviour developed recently, since before, my sims weren't being used as much. *shrugs* The good thing that I noticed, however, is that male sims are now actually using the stand-up urinals. This never happened before in my dorm, but now it works. So huzzah for that! :D

Ste

Magicmoon:
Quote from: jsalemi on 2006 June 08, 12:44:04

Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 08, 11:03:01

What are you having them do at the time? That's definitely not part of any macro.


In most cases, nothing -- i didn't have anything queued up after they got back from class.  They would stand around by the portal for a few sim minutes, the BUY icon would pop up, and they'd run to the bathroom, even with almost full bladders.  And I saw it happen in some houses, too, when a sim comes home from work and doesn't have anything in the queue.  The common thread seems to be an empty queue.


I rolled back to version to version 2.50 because 2.51 immediately crashes my game. On occasion (mostly rare) the sim will get queued up to use the bathroom with a nearly full bladder gauge, usually when returning from work or class and only when their queue is empty. It is on campus that it happens the most.

If the sim decides on their own to use the bathroom either the shower icon or the toilet icon appears in their queue and they walk until they enter the bathroom at which point the BYU icon takes control and shows up instead. But this going to the bathroom with a mostly full bladder gauge is using the BYU icon in their queue and they run from the sidewalk to the bathroom just like when the BYU normally calls for them when their bladder gauge is red.

This does not even affect all the sims equally. I may have 5 sims return from class at the same time, some with somewhat lower bladder scores (not critical) will be passed over for this strange call to the bathroom while someone completely green takes off running.It is rare enough in my game to not be a problem, but i wanted you to know that it is affecting others and not just the latest version.

The last time I had the "waiting queue" problem was several versions ago and only in small houses that had few bathrooms. This problem is not currently affecting me at all.

jsalemi:
Well, I did some testing in a house with 4 sims, and a dorm with a solo sim.  Prior to changing anything, they all had the 'run to bathroom with a almost completely green bladder' syndrome.  I found that:

1) it isn't a problem if free will is off and power idle is on.
2) it is a problem if free will is on and power idle is on.
3) in the house, replacing the BUY controller in both bathrooms seems to have solved the problem so far.
4) in the dorm, replacing the BUY controller in three bathrooms (all single toilet/single shower) mostly solved the problem (as in, it still happens, but a lot less than it used to).

The only situation I haven't tried yet is a dorm with multi-toilet/multi-shower bathrooms.  I'll give that a go later.

ZephyrZodiac:
Well, I turned "seek" off and checked room only, and a sim returning from work, who normally even when being rushed to the loo in seek mode, walks sedately, on this latest occasion ran hell for leather as if her bladder was bursting (which it wasn't, and nor was she more than 45 % of the hygiene bar down.  I'll check for a later version and put it in when I close my game to see if that makes any difference.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: magicmoon on 2006 June 08, 19:21:43

I rolled back to version to version 2.50 because 2.51 immediately crashes my game. On occasion (mostly rare) the sim will get queued up to use the bathroom with a nearly full bladder gauge, usually when returning from work or class and only when their queue is empty. It is on campus that it happens the most.
Is this an NL-only game? It still crashes, even with the current update?

Quote from: magicmoon on 2006 June 08, 19:21:43

The last time I had the "waiting queue" problem was several versions ago and only in small houses that had few bathrooms. This problem is not currently affecting me at all.
2.50 is known to have the problem, 2.51 fixed that. You're saying it crashes the game?

Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 08, 17:11:57

I have a couple of error logs, one associated with the shower, when curtis failed to dress and then did something to the counter he was about to clean, another with the gnome when son Marvin was given Macro - kick stuff, and one other with a neighbour in the welcome wagon - I'm not sure but I think she may have been ejected from the BR - this is the one who constantly gets stuck in BRs.

These are all force-error logs, none of them are useful. Don't force unrequested errors, they don't tell me anything.

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