Bathroom Controller: In Soviet Russia, Bathroom Uses You!

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J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: PlayLives on 2006 June 04, 08:18:17

What's up with the latest version of BUY (5-28)? It is pushing my sims into the bathroom even when their bladder & hygiene is almost complety full (sometimes maybe 90% full). Serioulsy, they are running to the bathroom constantly on home lots and business lots where I have the rolls installed. I've tried setting 'Seek' to on & off but it doesn't matter. What's going on?  ???
Beats me. I cannot reproduce this result. What are you doing to cause it? Seek isn't even programmed to TRY on a sim until bladder/hygiene are pretty low, and that code hasn't been changed in ages. What are your sims doing at the time?

Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 May 30, 18:05:56

By the time my sims can even consider Private School (ahem Public School over here) they probably have more bathrooms than sims!  So I'd remove the BUY from one of them anyway, so when they throw a party their visitors can take a bath!

Visitors should be able to be processed for showers if they have the "shower enabled" visitor mode set, as per normal gameplay. They should be kicked out if they're attempting to loiter in the bathroom, which is the usual reason they're trying to go in there, to stalk someone ELSE who went in there.

ZephyrZodiac:
It happens to my visitors when the BR is empty, and they've gone in to wash their hands!

What shower enabled visitor mode?

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 04, 10:12:39

It happens to my visitors when the BR is empty, and they've gone in to wash their hands!
Shower-enabled visitor mode is normally triggered when you invite someone to stay over, which sets a flag on their visitor-state which enables them to use the shower. BRY checks for this (in the old days, it would try to force any visitor into the shower if low enough, resulting in a hang), and thus ignores the shower-part for anyone loitering in the bathroom.

And the bathroom is intentionally forced to remain empty, so that people looking for a docking port do not wind up in a traffic jam. This is why nobody, ESPECIALLY visitors, is allowed to perform any spurious silly activities in the bathroom, such as aforementioned pointless handwashing. Everyone OUT! If any idiot was allowed to simply waltz in anytime they randomly decided to do something stupid there, and then loiter as long as they wanted, there'd be a massive, unentangleable traffic jam as everyone piled into the bathroom, rendering it impossible for anyone to leave or use the fixtures they NEED to use.

This is why leaving a bathroom "unequipped" is folly and the people being thrown out deserve it.

ZephyrZodiac:
Well, yes, I sse all that, but what about if Inge's apartment sink is in the bathroom?  Also, why can't party guests use the bath or the shower?

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 04, 11:19:02

Well, yes, I sse all that, but what about if Inge's apartment sink is in the bathroom?  Also, why can't party guests use the bath or the shower?
Well, presumably, Maxis saw it as being somewhat STRANGE for you to go to somebody ELSE's house to take a shower, perhaps because then, having no source of clean uniforms, you'd just have to get back into your stinky, smelly clothes, thus defeating the point of the exercise. When was the last time you went to somebody's house to use their shower, anyway?

And what is this "Inge apartment sink", and why does it matter if it's in the bathroom or not? No loitering in the bathrooms means no loitering in the bathrooms!

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