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J. M. Pescado:
I honestly cannot think of any logical reason why AwesomeMod would affect how the game starts, as the generation of windows and whatnot occurs at a far lower level than game scripting and should not be affected by how and where you launch the game. As far as I know, there's no particularly direct method that the scriptcore has of altering the game's windowing settings, and certainly nothing I have atetmpted to go anywhere near.
That said, Steam is evil and who knows what the fuck it does? Why would you use it to play game that is not a Steam game?
Anach:
Quote from: Team Gav on 2015 February 18, 04:11:57
Is is normal for Sims 3 to start minimized when using Awesome Mod?
Steam runs the launcher (Sims3LauncherW.exe) visible, but when I start the game from there (TS3W.exe) or directly via that .exe it's minimized. As soon as I remove the AM package - or if I set the game to windowed from full screen - it reverts back to the standard behavior of starting full screen.
Obviously this isn't the end of the world. The game is still one swish and click away. It is a hiccup for my xbox-controller steam-powered living-room entertainment-box setup though. How can I get Sims 3 with AM to launch from Steam without mouse or keys?
I use Awesome with the Steam version, because fuck installing 21 disks (ISOs) and patches or downloading 21 separate setups with Origin when things go south. I launch via TS3W.exe to avoid the horrible launcher, but both methods work fine. I do change the GameVersion on the AwesomeMod scripts, just to avoid the annoying nag warning about incompatible version, but otherwise Awesome works perfectly fine, as other than the directory layout and the internal versioning, the Steam version is identical, even in windowed mode and doesn't minimize my Window at all.
PS. Steam was definitely a crap platform 10 years ago and I hated it, but in recent years has done more to revive PC gaming than any other publisher, developer or platform combined, including bringing back many revamped old favourites I thought I'd never play again. I haven't used a disk in years, as the convenience is fantastic and the cheap prices has mostly eliminated my need for piracy and the bad cracks, bad stability and performance that come with them. Looking forward to Homeworld Remastered.
Anach:
I'd just put it down to gremlins. One of those things that appears to only affect you, but probably no one else, likely due to some random combination of things that you'll probably never reproduce and only track down accidentally one day.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Anach on 2015 February 19, 19:25:33
PS. Steam was definitely a crap platform 10 years ago and I hated it, but in recent years has done more to revive PC gaming than any other publisher, developer or platform combined, including bringing back many revamped old favourites I thought I'd never play again. I haven't used a disk in years, as the convenience is fantastic and the cheap prices has mostly eliminated my need for piracy and the bad cracks, bad stability and performance that come with them. Looking forward to Homeworld Remastered.
Except for the part about being spyware, so now you have to pirate just to avoid being spied on. It is linked to systems that snoop through your system memory, ostensibly looking for "cheats", but of course, if it's snooping through your memory, it will find EVERYTHING. It knows every program you run and exactly how long you've been running that. It whitewashes this by appealing your your vanity and sums it up as hours-you-played-a-game. But do not be fooled: This is SPYWARE, of the most insidious kind. Oh, and all the stuff you "bought"? They can take it away from you any time they please for any reason they please. If it's down to Steam and Pirate Cat, go with Pirate Cat. Pirate Cat will never take away your games, doesn't spy on you, and won't pay for his downloads.
Anach:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2015 February 21, 19:05:38
Except for the part about being spyware, so now you have to pirate just to avoid being spied on. It is linked to systems that snoop through your system memory, ostensibly looking for "cheats", but of course, if it's snooping through your memory, it will find EVERYTHING. It knows every program you run and exactly how long you've been running that. It whitewashes this by appealing your your vanity and sums it up as hours-you-played-a-game. But do not be fooled: This is SPYWARE, of the most insidious kind. Oh, and all the stuff you "bought"? They can take it away from you any time they please for any reason they please. If it's down to Steam and Pirate Cat, go with Pirate Cat. Pirate Cat will never take away your games, doesn't spy on you, and won't pay for his downloads.
I think you'd have a hard time not being spied on these days. Our phones do it, our TVs do it, our web browsers do it, web sites do it and our operating systems do it. Looking for cheats though, I'm assuming you mean VAT; not all games on Steam use it, and there are some games that can bypass Steam by launching directly from their normal launchers.
The problem with pirating, in most cases (Sims 3 excluded), is you end up with a barely functioning game with terrible performance and more bugs than the official, plus lack of proper update support. As most the pirated installers say, "If you like it, buy it", so this is mostly what I do. However, I'll still pirate it first to try it. Buying Sims 3 was mostly about saving my sanity, as when it sometimes threw an error during patching, I'd have to reinstall it to fix it. 21 disks later, plus patches that apply during install, it was pulling my hair out, but with the steam version I just hit play. Disks and ISOs are just so slow and annoying, to me it's like using a floppy drive.
As for Steam controlling if we can play the games we buy, or the possibility of taking our stuff away, well isn't that what you do yourself to a degree, by having a timebomb set into Awesomemod? You might say that it's to ensure people update, but there are always arguments for why people apply DRM and all of them suck. Even so, if for some reason Steam went belly up and the games didn't work without it, and the developers didn't patch them to work like they have with the recent vanishing of GFWL, then I'd simply resort to cracking them.
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