Macro Control: Macrotastics

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EsotericPolarBear:
I meant without having to select each family member and do it.

Also, power idle doesn't socialize.

[edit] basically, I want to focus on one sim at a time without the others self-destructing.  I hate juggling.

Nec:
Wow, you only have to click once on each family member to get them to talk until 100. How lazy can one get?
Need someone to play your game for you?

EsotericPolarBear:
Quote from: Nec on 2008 February 03, 21:57:30

Wow, you only have to click once on each family member to get them to talk until 100. How lazy can one get?
Need someone to play your game for you?


Wow, you can't read.

I need the other family members to take care of themselves when I'm not using them. 

Let's see, if I have 4 family members, that means I have to socialize three people with the first one, two with the second and one with the last.  That's six times that I have to set it up to repair the relationship and then keep up with when they've stopped so I can move on to the next.

I don't like juggling sims.  I prefer to play one at a time.  The problem is, the others have a tendency to fall apart at the seams when I don't give them enough attention.  I wish they could maintain status quo without my interference.

So no, I don't want someone to play the game for me, I just don't like having to juggle eight needs on four sims, PLUS trying to skill up and badge up and accomplish other such things.  That's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much micromanagement.

Yes, I could use snapdragons all the time, but that feels lame.  At least with macros, it feels more like the stupid sims just aren't stupid...the needs still have to be filled, I just don't have to micromange it.  With snapdragons, I can completely ignore the needs altogether and that feels like cheating.

So, really, if I was lazy, I'd just use snapdragons all the time. :-\

Kyna:
How are their relationships getting damaged, if you have power idle on?  One of the benefits of power idle is that sims don't do things that are destructive to their relationships.

If you have 4 sims, it's really quite simple.  Sim A macro-socialises with Sim B, while C and D macro-socialise with each other.  Then when they're done, Sim A macro-socialises with Sim C, and B with D.  Then A macro-socialises with D, and B with C.  And you're done.

If you want some sims to take care of themselves while you micro-manage one or two sims, then put power idle on.  Sims will tend to their own needs*, and won't do anything stupid or destructive.  It also helps if you turn free will off - otherwise they'll lecture each other for breaking the shower or something like that, and this could cause them to drop out of power idle.  You can use macro/skillinate if you want them to learn skills or earn badges while you're ignoring them - again they will take care of their own needs.*

*Assuming you have the lot properly set up with Bathroom Uses You, something kickable for fun, and sleep clocks.

EsotericPolarBear:
Quote from: Kyna on 2008 February 03, 23:32:56

How are their relationships getting damaged, if you have power idle on?  One of the benefits of power idle is that sims don't do things that are destructive to their relationships.

1) Time

2) I should clarify, I partially want to repair the relationships because any other type of autosocializing would be counterintuitive and currently, power idle tends to ignore social need if you don't have a phone or friends with phones (and possibly if your friends are all at 100)...in any case, my sims are constantly getting visits from the social bunny, which is a queue stomper.

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If you have 4 sims, it's really quite simple.  Sim A macro-socialises with Sim B, while C and D macro-socialise with each other.  Then when they're done, Sim A macro-socialises with Sim C, and B with D.  Then A macro-socialises with D, and B with C.  And you're done.

Yes, I can do the math.  But read that again and tell me it doesn't sound tedious. (not as tedious as manually socializing, granted, but tedious nonetheless)  I just wish this was part of power idle the way autoyak is.

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If you want some sims to take care of themselves while you micro-manage one or two sims, then put power idle on.  Sims will tend to their own needs*, and won't do anything stupid or destructive.  It also helps if you turn free will off - otherwise they'll lecture each other for breaking the shower or something like that, and this could cause them to drop out of power idle.  You can use macro/skillinate if you want them to learn skills or earn badges while you're ignoring them - again they will take care of their own needs.*

Except social, apparently...which is what I'm talking about here.  Also, I've noticed the macros sometimes let needs get to critical levels and then get themselves queue stomped by the sim complaining about his/her/its needs.  This may be because I have cheap stuffs that don't fill needs quickly...which may not be a fault of the macro (except social, I'm totally blaming the macro for that)...but I haven't tested it with the high-end stuff because I'm a lazy ass that uses snapdragons by that point.

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*Assuming you have the lot properly set up with Bathroom Uses You, something kickable for fun, and sleep clocks.


oh yeah, got all that.  ;D

Don't get me wrong, I love the macros...I'm just noticing some areas that to me seem like rather large omissions and am wondering if I'm missing something or if they just weren't included.

Really, I just hate the social need and relationship decay.  It's absurd.  I'm all for being able to damage relationships, but natural decay?  I don't see it.  I've never had someone call me up and say "we're not friends anymore because I haven't seen you in a couple weeks"  :P

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