Macro Control: Macrotastics
vikitty:
College Rampage is acting funny for me since Ikea Stuff Pack, though it may have been before since I only resumed playing Uni dorms recently.
Am using only Awesome hacks at the moment.
Problems include Sims freezing as soon as I select "Rampage", Sims flocking to bookcases and then freezing, and other asshattery. In some instances "Rampage" cannot be cancelled, and I have to use "Force Errors" on the lot debugger to reset everything.
lordrichter:
Some Hobbinate oddities that I have observed today. FFS mods through 6/30/08, currently at FTp3, but no change since FT no patches)
All Hobbinate activities start with extended use of the phone. This is occasionally preceded by use of the terlet and a refreshing shower. They will use the phone until social is maxed. They will return as often as necessary in order to keep social maxed.
Sometime around 1-2 hours after instructed to Hobbinate, they will be done with the terlet, shower, and phone and then they get down to business....
Hobbinate / Tinkering for a Level 7 hobby person generated some sort of "use interwebs" action with a picture of the standard Moneywell computer that was sitting unused in the next room. Apparently, they have direct wireless access since all they did was stand there thinking about using the computer. I eventually canceled, but they always came back to it if I started Hobbinate / Tinkering. If the computer is busy, they will go to the bookcase.
Hobbinate / Nature always results in birdwatching. No problems there.
Hobbinate / Cuisine for a Level 9 person went to the Moneywell and started blogging. No problem there. This was after the Tinkering person was done wirelessly accessing the computer, by the way. I don't know if the wireless access blocked the blogging action, but the blogger was still on the phone building social when the wireless sim was accessing the interwebs.
Hobbinate / Film and Literature level 8 went to the bookcase. No problem there that I can see.
Hobbinate / Sports (no current interest) was sitting on the sofa doing nothing for a long time, two squares away from a Trottco 27" TV, still off. After sitting there a while, the social score dropped down a pixel or two so now they are heading to the phone to call everyone they know. When done with that, they will return to the sofa and just sit. Rinse and repeat until some other motive needs attention.
More:
On a different lot, I noticed that Hobbinate / Music&Dance with someone who had no prior interest in music and dance resulted in the same sitting on the couch behavior I noted with the Sports activity above. It occurred to me to check the icon to see what they thought they were doing and the action was labeled ""Call.../Family" under the hobby icon (the only one in the queue). Their social was maxed, being that they just got off the phone talking to everyone they knew. I predict they will sit there all day, getting up only to tend to various needs, and behaving, for the most part, like they are on Power Idle. They are sitting in front of a Trottco 20" TV and are ignoring a Fun-Kadelic stereo in the same room where they talked on the cell for an hour to build social before coming out to sit on the couch and dream about calling family.
More Edit:
Turns out that Hobbinate/Music&Dance is more about playing music than dance. If there is a musical instrument on the lot, they lose interest in calling the family and go play it. I suppose that the family will have to live with the idea that a guitar is more important than they are. :)
vikitty:
lordrichter, I had the same issues a while ago and Pescado assured me that this is normal behavior -- sims will take care of their needs before hobbinating.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: lordrichter on 2008 July 04, 18:21:26
All Hobbinate activities start with extended use of the phone. This is occasionally preceded by use of the terlet and a refreshing shower. They will use the phone until social is maxed. They will return as often as necessary in order to keep social maxed.
Hobbinate is basically Power Idle With Hobbies. Therefore, sims will perform basic motive and status maintenance in the process.
Quote from: lordrichter on 2008 July 04, 18:21:26
Hobbinate / Tinkering for a Level 7 hobby person generated some sort of "use interwebs" action with a picture of the standard Moneywell computer that was sitting unused in the next room. Apparently, they have direct wireless access since all they did was stand there thinking about using the computer.
This is normal. Level 7 unlocks the "blog" action which has a higher enthusiasm rate gain. You probably were not allowing them to reach the computer, so they could not complete the action. Tinkering hobbination works fine on the computer in my game, so you must have prevented that sim from accessing the computer somehow.
Quote from: lordrichter on 2008 July 04, 18:21:26
Hobbinate / Nature always results in birdwatching. No problems there.
Birdwatching is a nature-based action, which is why it is chosen. Hobbinate is also clever and will make use of the fact that gardening is also nature-based, preferring that as the dominant nature-based action.
Quote from: lordrichter on 2008 July 04, 18:21:26
Hobbinate / Sports (no current interest) was sitting on the sofa doing nothing for a long time, two squares away from a Trottco 27" TV, still off. After sitting there a while, the social score dropped down a pixel or two so now they are heading to the phone to call everyone they know. When done with that, they will return to the sofa and just sit. Rinse and repeat until some other motive needs attention.
Sports currently only recognizes the sports equipment. TV is too prone to ADHD and other issues like sims attempting to arbitrarily change the channel. Higher levels of sports can use the Internets actions.
Quote from: lordrichter on 2008 July 04, 18:21:26
Turns out that Hobbinate/Music&Dance is more about playing music than dance. If there is a musical instrument on the lot, they lose interest in calling the family and go play it. I suppose that the family will have to live with the idea that a guitar is more important than they are.
Provide better dance actions. The sims will use the ballet bar, the musical instruments, or the regular dance, but only if the stereo is on. They will not turn on the stereo on their own, because that's really obnoxious. Without the stereo, they won't dance.
Kyna:
Quote from: lordrichter on 2008 July 04, 18:21:26
Hobbinate / Tinkering for a Level 7 hobby person generated some sort of "use interwebs" action with a picture of the standard Moneywell computer that was sitting unused in the next room. Apparently, they have direct wireless access since all they did was stand there thinking about using the computer. I eventually canceled, but they always came back to it if I started Hobbinate / Tinkering. If the computer is busy, they will go to the bookcase.
Is the desk accessible from the right-hand side? I've noticed that if the right-hand side of the desk is blocked (e.g. against a wall) that sometimes the sims will think their path to the computer is blocked.
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