AutoYakYak Macro Phone Caller (10/25/06)
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Avalikia on 2007 December 30, 23:11:47
I believe over 70 is when your friends stop calling you to harrass you about how much they miss you.
There's nothing special about 70, it's just BastDawn's comfort number. The whining about how they miss you was quashed by the Phone Hack, anyway, and that occurs somewhere around 55.
Quote from: cwykes on 2007 December 30, 17:15:28
I guess I'd rather have the marginal friendships boosted 10-20 points out of the danger zone first so my sim can go do something else for a couple of days. When the ritual starts with the highest relationships, you have to do the whole thing again the next time the sim has a few hours to spare. I'm not sure what the magic about 70 is, but I'd certainly vote for re-arranging the priorities so relationships over 85/90 are ignored completely.
The ritual chooses what it does because it is running damage avoidance first. It's sort of like a situation where the house is on fire at the same time that the dog wants to play. You deal with the immediate concerns that result in damage if neglected first. The AutoYak is prioritizing the avoidance of LTR loss over the loss of inconsequential points. And frankly, if you have problems with "whole thing again the next time your sim has a few hours to spare", either your sims have an unmanageable number of friends, or your time management sucks. Installing Enemies Accumulate can also reduce the amount of timesink involved.
cwykes:
Preventing relationship decay isn't the only reason for using call friends. This is the situation I hit again yesterday:- I wanted to send the sim to work in platinum by filling his want to make a new best friend - didn't matter which one. I'd worked up several relationships so they just needed a call to tip over the boundary from friend to best friends. He has an hour or so to spare before he goes to work to use the phone. If I use call friends, the sim spends the hour before work calling all his best friends. He doesn't make a new best friend, goes to work non-platinum and comes home unpromoted. Next morning I set him to call friends all over again. If I want to send him to work platinum, I have to do it the Eaxis way by tracking who he's sucking up to and which of them is at work when. Then I have to queue him to call them all in turn until I hit one that isn't at work, then cancel the others from the queue so he can fill another want later. Surely I'm not the only one with this problem? And yes, my time management has always sucked in RL and sims.
Maybe what I'm wanting could be described as a BF target.
J. M. Pescado:
If you want to satisfy a SPECIFIC want, you have to do it manually: There is no current way to retrieve any useful information about a sim's want status in code to target their behavior more intelligently. If you want a best friend, you should pick one manually to do, as AutoYak does not have any specific bias on this decision. If it were to intentionally focus on making best friends, you might be cheated out of an opportunity to do when it occurs while it is not a want, or when your ASP meter is full already and the excess points will be wasted. Therefore, as there is no special benefit conveyed by the formalization of the relationship, it will work simply on loss-avoidance. If you have a specific objective in mind, you will still have to do it yourself: Macro systems are just meant to cover generalized behaviors and micromanagement, and not highly specific want-related goals. There's still SOME game to be played. If your time management is really that bad, Power Idle Moar.
cwykes:
I can see you wouldn't want to link it to wants - that wasn't actually what I meant. I hadn't really understood that "call targets" and "call friends" are fundamentally different in intent even though the names suggest they are the same. Call targets is a tool to identify sims actually at home whereas call friends is macro to automate routine relationship maintainence. I find sometimes that I'd like to be able to pick which friends to call off a list filtered down to "friends at home" i.e.an option similar in intent to call targets. It's not that important, I can do it manually; my time management isn't that bad, honest! ;D
BastDawn:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2007 December 31, 07:58:36
Quote from: Avalikia on 2007 December 30, 23:11:47
I believe over 70 is when your friends stop calling you to harrass you about how much they miss you.
There's nothing special about 70, it's just BastDawn's comfort number. The whining about how they miss you was quashed by the Phone Hack, anyway, and that occurs somewhere around 55.
I thought 70 ltr was required to fall in love. I didn't know about the whine thing at all; I guess the Phone Hack has made me complacent. :P If it's not that important, then why bother unless there's a risk of losing best friend status?
(I don't really care. But that doesn't mean I can't argue!)
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