Data Execution Prevention + Latest Patch
Anach:
Quote from: basbas on 2011 June 10, 13:58:08
Quote from: Anach on 2011 June 10, 13:53:17
In this configuration you won't need to use the whitelist to add each .exe everytime you install an EP/SP.
If this were the case, many people wouldn't know about the existence of DEP in the first place.
The whitelist is only enabled if you turn on DEP for ALL programs, which isn't the default setting. Try it yourself. There is no whitelist access while at it's default setting, that is because only Windows is protected by DEP, everything else is ignored for compatibility. Often Techs or Tech Savvy will enable this setting for that small gain in protection that it provides the average user. For most people this wont be an issue, but when you start modding games, or using cracks or game trainers and such, DEP can get in the way.
basbas:
Of course I did try it myself, as my game was crashing on unpause with the default setting enabled.
Enabling the whitelist and adding the TS3blah.exes to it solved the problems completely.
tizerist:
Not sure if it's DEP or not, but since Generations I have been getting "Sims 3 has stopped working and needs to close" every couple of hours. Now, I never had this error ever before Generations. Plenty of CTD's, buckets in fact. But never that.
Crashing has been thankfully minimal this past year, until Generations.
I have added TS3W and TS3EP04 to DEP. And every single executable from every pack.
I am just going to remove everything from DEP, do it again, reboot and see where that takes me.
But something fishy IS going on though. I have this process licked normally. And it's not ram, that's only averaging about 2.5 on task manager. Sigh. It's not like the EP even added anything substantial to the game for all this chaos. :/
Anach:
Quote from: basbas on 2011 June 10, 14:21:16
Of course I did try it myself, as my game was crashing on unpause with the default setting enabled.
Enabling the whitelist and adding the TS3blah.exes to it solved the problems completely.
I'm not doubting what you are saying, but essentially what you have done is Enable DEP for everything, only to disable it again by adding a whitelist entry for TS3blah.exe. This seems a little odd, as the default setting shouldn't be affecting Sims in the first place. I'm wondering if it was originally somehow set to AlwaysOn instead of OptIn (Default), and changing it to the whitelist approach will have set it to OptOut. It may depend on your original system configuration.
FYI, you change DEP settings quicker by typing "bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff" in a elevated (run as admin) command prompt, then reboot. Replace AlwaysOff with AlwaysOn, OptIn or OptOut which are the 4 available options. For those unsure what their current DEP is set to, you can run "wmic OS Get DataExecutionPrevention_SupportPolicy" at the prompt. It will display a number according to the list here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912923
Anach:
Quote from: tizerist on 2011 June 10, 15:00:27
Not sure if it's DEP or not, but since Generations I have been getting "Sims 3 has stopped working and needs to close" every couple of hours. Now, I never had this error ever before Generations. Plenty of CTD's, buckets in fact. But never that.
Crashing has been thankfully minimal this past year, until Generations.
I have added TS3W and TS3EP04 to DEP. And every single executable from every pack.
I am just going to remove everything from DEP, do it again, reboot and see where that takes me.
But something fishy IS going on though. I have this process licked normally. And it's not ram, that's only averaging about 2.5 on task manager. Sigh. It's not like the EP even added anything substantial to the game for all this chaos. :/
The Stopped working message is just another CTD, just windows caught it and displayed a nice message. If you have had buckets of CTDs before generations, then I'd be inclined to think you have CC, Town, Sim or Memory issues. Testing for either can be a pain, and if you're like me, you'd probably prefer to think it's something else and not bother going through all the testing to find out :P
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