Random crashfest; at my wit's end

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BaronElectricPhase:
Quote from: Hitch on 2011 April 30, 15:38:21

A "mutant monster from outer space" is a favorable description of a computer?



I prefer my FrankenBox.

Daimon:
My space monster is a laptop and it shall always be a space monster to me. That said, I do realise that the 8800M GTX is not the newest card on the market, but unless I am stupider than I thought (I'll leave the option open), it's still among the top ten best videocards for laptops. However, even if I am proved to be dumber than a wet brick on this question, I still feel the need to point out that the game ran flawlessly on high graphics settings until these crashes began to occur about three weeks ago. This is why I thought the issue might be Outdoors Living related at first.

For the sake of further argument I offer you my specs, as well as a virtual cup of coffee. The computer is currently sitting in the repair shop, though, since it is now refusing to acknowledge that it has a videocard at all (yeah, I don't think it's a Sims related problem anymore either). I am waiting eagerly by the phone for a call from the shop that will determine whether repairs are under warranty or I won't be eating this month (also, hyperbole is my friend).

On a slightly miffed note, I see what you did there, Hitch. However, blaming Pescado never crossed my mind. I came here because while MATY is, uh, reputable for eating the clueless and the stupid alive, and being anything but newbie friendly, it is also home to some of the most competent simmers around. I'll take my beatings in stride as long as I feel confident that the people calling me an idiot at least know what they're talking about.

Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 build 2600 (32-bit),   (I tested with Windows 7, 32-bit and 64-bit both, same crashes)
1 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9500 @ 2.60GHz,
3.0GB RAM,  (4 GB under win 7)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX,
186GB HDD,
DVD, DVD,

GENERAL
System Name: ALVIN-2E2B59A82
System Model: M570RU
Motherboard Manufacturer: CLEVO
Motherboard Name: SANTA ROSA
Motherboard Version: Not Applicable
Motherboard Serial Number: Not Applicable
BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix
BIOS Version: PTLTD - 6040000
BIOS Release Date: 2007/12/12

CPU
CPU manufacturer: GenuineIntel
CPU Type: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9500 @ 2.60GHz
Codename: Penryn
CPUID: Family 6, Model 17, Stepping 6, Revision M0/C0
Socket: PGA478/BGA479
Lithography: 45nm
Physical CPU's: 1
Cores per CPU: 2
Hyperthreading: Not capable
CPU features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 DEP PAE Intel64 VMX
Clock frequencies:
Measured CPU speed: 2593.6 MHz
Multiplier: x13.0
Scalable Bus Speed: 200.0 MHz
Front Side Bus: 798.0 MHz
Cache per CPU package:
L1 Instruction Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L1 Data Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L2 Cache: 1 x 6144 KB

MEMORY
Total Physical Memory: 3070MB
Available Physical Memory: 2157MB
Virtual memory: C:\pagefile.sys (allocated base size 2046MB)

GRAPHICS
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX
Chip Type: GeForce 8800M GTX
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Memory: 512MB
BIOS: Version 62.92.19.00.A3
Driver provider: NVIDIA
Driver version: 6.14.12.6658
Driver date: 1-7-2011
Monitor 1: 1920x1200x32 60Hz (Primary monitor)

DISK VOLUMES
C: Local drive, NTFS, (186.30GB total, 76.16GB free)
D: Optical drive
F: Optical drive

DISK DRIVES
Diskdrev: Model ST9200420ASG (Size: 186.31GB)

OPTICAL DRIVES
Optiarc DVD RW AD-5540A
PQFO F8XEJ4LQBK5 SCSI CdRom Device

NETWORK
Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Bluetooth PAN Network Adapter

PORTS
Kommunikationsport: COM1 - RS232 Serial Port (max Baud rate: 115200)
Keyboard Port: Mini-DIN connector
Mouse Port: Mini-DIN connector
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2834
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2835
- TouchStrip Fingerprint Sensor
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 283A
- ? ? (SN: ?)
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2830
- Wacom Co.,Ltd. MTE-450
- Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2831
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2832
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 2836

wizard_merlin:
Quote from: Daimon on 2011 May 02, 09:17:32

My space monster is a laptop and it shall always be a space monster to me. That said, I do realise that the 8800M GTX is not the newest card on the market, but unless I am stupider than I thought (I'll leave the option open), it's still among the top ten best videocards for laptops.

If you check the Nvidia website, the 8800M is no where near the top 10 laptop cards, it is archaic and bordering on falling into the obsolete class, there have been in excess of 40 Nvidia cards for Laptops since the 8800M, so it makes the top 50 cards, but just.

Quote from: Daimon on 2011 May 02, 09:17:32

Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 build 2600 (32-bit),   (I tested with Windows 7, 32-bit and 64-bit both, same crashes)
1 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9500 @ 2.60GHz,
3.0GB RAM,  (4 GB under win 7)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX,
186GB HDD,
DVD, DVD,


System should handle the game, but I would consider it marginal, and every time you add a new EP/SP it adds to the strain of the system, hence a borderline system may become unusable when you add extra EP/SPs to the game.  I don't believe the game supports multi-cores properly (may be wrong on this one) in which case the game will use one core of a multi-core processor.  The game requires 2.4 Ghz and you're running 2.60 Ghz, not much room for a safety buffer, especially given that AM does add a little extra system strain, but nothing exorbitant.

RAM seems Ok but not brilliant, and your harddrive is on the small side.

All of these things combined could be over stretching your system, and if you haven't been running an FPS limiter, you may just be overcooking your graphics card, hence the problem, or put another way, a slightly under performing system, plus over stressed graphics equals a meltdown.

Jeebus:
Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2011 May 02, 20:22:14

I don't believe the game supports multi-cores properly (may be wrong on this one) in which case the game will use one core of a multi-core processor.

No, TS3 can use two cores.

wizard_merlin:
Quote from: Jeebus on 2011 May 02, 20:49:11

Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2011 May 02, 20:22:14

I don't believe the game supports multi-cores properly (may be wrong on this one) in which case the game will use one core of a multi-core processor.

No, TS3 can use two cores.


Handy to know, I had heard conflicting information about whether it did or not.

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